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5 NL zoom 6max - tangling with flop raise in coorditaed board - Wed Dec 25, 2013, 08:20 AM
braveslice's Avatar
Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 568
Villain (108 hands) : 20/11/5, AF:2, WWSF:6/15, WTSD:4/15, WSD:2/4, Check Raise flop ¼, fold to CB:2/4

How to play it correctly?

My line ‘feels’ bad, but I don’t quite know why.

OTT: I felt he is mostly weak here, and I was planning on barreling almost any river if he calls. That said, I don’t quite get what hand he would play like this. His flop and turn bets were quite fast and so was the fold.

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Button ($5)
SB ($4.74)
BB ($7.14)
Hero (UTG) ($6.80)
MP ($6.92)
CO ($2.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 10
Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 6, 7, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BB raises to $0.44, Hero calls $0.22

Turn: ($1.20) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold

Last edited by braveslice; Wed Dec 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM..
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:25 AM
spand42's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,496
I'm personally not too crazy about raising T9s UTG but if you feel that you can navigate your way through post-flop play better than your opponents, then this is by all means fine!

I agree with you that the flop min check/raise looks pretty weak - if he was doing it for value with a set or two pair, I guess he would think about it more and maybe check-raise bigger to protect his hand. I think a donk lead rather than a check/raise might have been a good line for the villain to take as this flop misses the vast majority of your UTG raising range.

If you sense genuine weakness (timing tells etc) or have reads that he's done this before, then the turn semi-bluff raise is a fine play as you will get him to fold a lot of better hands because most of his bluffs are currently better than your hand.

However this guy doesn't seem to have particularly crazy stats and his AF was only 2 - not maniacal by any means! You're probably going to fold out most/all of his air which is a good result. However he is unlikely to fold a straight draw/flush draw/set/two pair to this action, so I think a large amount of the time you are just bloating the pot and you might not even get much value if a spade turns up. Indeed it might be case of reversed implied odds if villain is playing a better flush draw like this.

Also if villain decides to 3Bet his made hands, you're going to have to give up your hand equity and future value if a spade or 8 comes because you would be forced to fold.

Therefore in general I think calling is a stronger play unless you sense he's just got air and feel you can semi-bluff him of a better bluff than you have.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 03:44 PM
braveslice's Avatar
Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 568
Thx spand42!

I did understood all you said, so well done. However, my overall skill might be a bit too weak to generate understanding about this hand. I take your word that - if i felt he was with air raise was good, and I take your word that calling was really a good choice. I think that my problem was that I really did not want to just call him because I was so sure he is so weak. Without hard evidence I may add, like you guessed.

Last edited by braveslice; Thu Dec 26, 2013 at 04:57 PM..

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