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Bankroll builder promo - Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:46 PM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
 
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Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:21 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:15 AM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Hand Replay flush\trips draw - Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:17 PM
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Hi,

Not sure if I should have folded to a bet that size on the turn as I already had middle pair and a flush draw. Maybe I should have just gotten out earlier.

Please advise.
 
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Completed Basic Course - Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:02 PM
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I have completed the basic course and passed the assessment quiz.

I believe this marks the completion of all three steps.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 06:22 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 12:20 PM
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Hi playdabass!

With a really bad hand in 84s from UTG, I need to muck this preflop. When playing from early position, I only want to be playing premium hands due to the positional disadvantage that I have postflop. Just because I have an ace or suited cards does not mean that the hand is playable. The only suited cards that I want to be opening with from UTG is AKs or maybe, possibly AQs and even AQs is a bit weak.

If I had a hand that was strong enough to raise with, I want to keep all of my bets and raises standard. For an opening raise, a standard raise is to 3BB+1BB for each limper.

If I saw the flop (which I would not), when I see that I hit middle pair, I need to check the flop. Bets postflop need to be sized based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture. With 4 or more opps, a standard bet is a pot-sized bet and I don't have a strong enough hand to do this with. I cannot bet less than a pot-sized bet here or I can be giving the opps the correct odds to try to outdraw me (if they're not already ahead).

On the turn, when an opp makes a large bet, I need to fold as I don't have enough outs to make drawing profitable.

The key here is to muck bad hands preflop, especially when out of position.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Thu Jan 02, 2014, 10:28 AM
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I have completed the basic course and passed the assessment quiz.
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Mon Jan 06, 2014, 07:48 PM
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I played the hand below at the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and am unsure as to how I could have played it better. I'm not sure if raising pre flop was a good move. Should I have folded the flop? Raised? Was folding when I did the right move?

 
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Mon Jan 06, 2014, 08:16 PM
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Three reasons to make a big bet:
1) bluff people out of decent hands
2) gain value from a monster hand
3) protect against strong draws
 
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Tue Jan 07, 2014, 07:06 AM
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I have completed the cash course and passed the quiz thus completing all three steps towards the next bonus.
 
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Tue Jan 07, 2014, 07:12 AM
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Hi,

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed he will advise on the next step.

Cheers!



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Tue Jan 07, 2014, 06:35 PM
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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this and if its not please let me know where would be a better place.

I noticed an oddity in the starting hand chart that I can't seem to understand. For small pairs in early position the guidance is to fold unless someone raises, this seems like a mistake to me. Suited connectors in the blinds suggest folding if everyone folds but calling if someone else does, this too doesn't make sense to me. Are these just mistakes in the chart or am I missing something?
 
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No Response to Hand Analysis - Wed Jan 08, 2014, 04:10 PM
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Hi,

I believe more than 24 hours has passed yet I have not received a hand analysis for my last hand posted nor a response to my later question.

Cheers!

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Hi,

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed he will advise on the next step.

Cheers!
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 06:15 PM
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Hi playdabass,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your hand.

TT is a strong hand and you are facing a raise from the small blind. Because you will be in position on all later streets, I think either calling or raising are good plays. However I don't really like the size of your raise. Your raise is never going to get your opponent to fold and you're not getting value when your opponent calls with a worse hand.

Because the effective stack (shorter stack) is only $0.77 or ~35BB, if you choose to raise to a normal 3Bet size of 3x the raise, $0.18, you have to be willing to call your opponent if he decides to move all in. There are far more combinations of hands like AK, AQ, AJ, KQ that might move all in compared to hands like JJ, QQ, KK or AA that have you crushed.

As played you hit an ugly flop. Of course as there are two Aces on the board, it is less likely that your opponent has an A. However he then bets into you. He could be doing this with a wide range of hands, including Ax or pairs that might be higher or lower than your TT. Folding is an option, but I prefer to call and see what he does on the turn. You could raise, but you'd likely force him to fold worse hands than yours and only call or raise with better.

On the turn he bets again. I like your decision to fold. He might be bluffing with a worse hand, but I don't think it's worth committing yourself to the pot to find out.

Whilst learning the ropes, you should be looking to extract the most value from your opponents when you make a big hand, not getting involved in too many marginal spots like this.

Well played!
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 06:19 PM
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I have completed the cash course and passed the quiz thus completing all three steps towards the next bonus.
Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 06:26 PM
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spand42 thank you very much for taking the time to review my hand. I will take your suggestion of increasing the size of my raise when re-raising. I see how the smaller size really can't hope to be effective.
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 06:30 PM
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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this and if its not please let me know where would be a better place.

I noticed an oddity in the starting hand chart that I can't seem to understand. For small pairs in early position the guidance is to fold unless someone raises, this seems like a mistake to me. Suited connectors in the blinds suggest folding if everyone folds but calling if someone else does, this too doesn't make sense to me. Are these just mistakes in the chart or am I missing something?
Great question!

About the small pairs. It is difficult to play small pairs from early position, because the only way you can realistically continue in the hand after the preflop action is if you a flop a set (three of a kind). This only happens about 12% of the time, which means that the other 88% of the time you will likely just have to give up. However when you do flop a set, you are in great shape to win a large pot. For this reason, with small pocket pairs you generally just want to see a cheap flop with many players involved, so at least one of them are more likely to have a strong hand, but not as strong as yours.

Therefore it recommends folding if unopened and folding if someone else has limped. This is because someone else later on might see weakness in the fact that you chose not to raise and will raise themselves, putting you to a tricky decision. However if you call a small raise, people are going to be less willing to 3Bet you and are more likely to just call instead and you'll get to see a cheap flop with many players.

With the suited connectors, again for similar reasons to the pocket pairs, you want to see a cheap flop with many players so when you hit a straight or flush draw, someone can pay you off if you hit your big hand. However suited connectors are less likely to hit a big hand on the flop, so you will likely have to invest more to see a turn and/or river to realise your hand's potential.
 

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