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2$NL 6MAX 9hJh -strong draw reraise the allin on the flop? bad river fault ? - Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:39 AM
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Villain 6 VP:19 PR:13 AFq:52 AF:3.67
Villain 1 VP:42 PR: 8 AFq:42 AF:1.25
Villain 4 VP:27 PR:22 AFq:44 AF:4



I have 2 questions about this hand
1. Should I have re-raised the all-in bet to take initiative in the pot. The tought process was not to lose villain 6 as I play this kinde of hole cards to win a big pot.

2. Was it extremely bad play on the river (I do believe I made an error there)

This is my first hand I ever post. If I could improve the post, please leave me a comment as well
 
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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:48 PM
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Hi betsizer,

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I generally prefer to flat call here as well... there's not a ton of value in isolating the short stack all in guy, we may free up some pair outs when the OR folds hands like KJ, but can't win any more from the shorty and can sometimes be in poor shape vs. him, like when he's got a bigger flush draw, pair+FD, or a set. Given we are deep with the other guy and he's quite aggressive post flop, I think we do better in the long run flatting and getting possible big value when we improve.

I wouldn't mind leading the turn sometimes to avoid giving a free card to worse hands on the turn, but against this villain I think check/call is good due to his aggression level... he's probably betting air to rep the J, he's betting TT/99, maybe everything in his range.

Calling the river fold "extremely bad" is a bit harsh, certainly it's not clear cut... but I would bite the bullet and call him because:

1) We have done nothing but call, so we look like a weak pair or busted draw, which means he may bet even bluffs for the side pot, and certainly any hand he thinks is ahead of the all in guy's range.

2) His post flop aggression levels, coupled with the points in #1, lead me to believe he'll be betting enough worse hands here to make calling profitable.


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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:51 PM
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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by betsizer View Post
This is my first hand I ever post. If I could improve the post, please leave me a comment as well
Looks good!
As much relevant info about a hand as you can provide is great. Sample size on the stats is good too, so we know how seriously to consider them... the stat lines you provided are solid info over 5000 hands, but not so much over only 50 for example.


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Thank you - Wed Jan 01, 2014, 09:36 AM
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I appreciate the feedback.
I've been playing for a few years (recreational) but only recently started to play on Pokerstars
I never took a lot of time studying the game but I am taking an interest to get better now . In fact it is needed cause the level here seems to be a lot harder.
So you might see some other hands in the near future, surely some with faulty actions but that is the general idea, to learn from them
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 12:21 PM
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I'd call the river with less than half the pot bet. His small turn bet was a bit suspicious as well showing that he doesn't have much of a showdown hand to protect. Tells he is likely in a draw or a weak showdown hand with a little possibility of a monster of course.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 04:21 PM
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thank you, I found the small river bet a bit dodgy but judged it to be a small bet to make me call
 

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