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NL2$ 6-max Was it better to check on the river to induce a bluff ? - Wed Jan 01, 2014, 10:55 AM
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villain_5: VP:86 PR:2 AFq:40 AF:1.03





This villain is (crazy)loose and hardly has any agression preflop. His agression comes from flop, turn and river with a tendancy to bet scary boards.
I think his game play might be to limp, call and then take pots by bluffing opponent out. If that is the case, should I have played differently on the river ? Other sizing or even check ?
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 12:11 PM
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everything is standard and correctly played in my opinion. Villain just doesn't have a good enough hand to call you. So don't blame yourself.

This is quite common when you have the nuts (2nd nuts).

Checking on the turn and river would lose value against his draws, pairs, overpairs.

If you were planning to bluff induce, you should have done it by checking on the turn. Yet, for me, betting is still a better play.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 12:23 PM
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The overused "look weak when strong" may work on the river against a post-flop aggro at this level. Bet ~20-30% of the pot and hope for a shove or call.

My advice is to be wary of bets that look like they want a call against most players.


p.s. Except against me as I'd never try something like that.

Last edited by TrumpinJoe; Wed Jan 01, 2014 at 12:25 PM..
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 12:26 PM
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On this board I think betting is only right thing to do, as any made pair the villain has is also a full house and he has hard time to fold it.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 02:49 PM
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thank you all for the input (take it along as usual )
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 05:01 PM
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Villain's AF is only 1.03. He's a calling station, so won't be bluffing. Bet big on every street, as he's calling with every pocket pair, and probably also just a deuce.


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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 06:56 PM
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Clear - thank you
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2014, 08:03 PM
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villain_5: VP:86 PR:2 AFq:40 AF:1.03
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This villain is (crazy)loose and hardly has any agression preflop. His agression comes from flop, turn and river with a tendancy to bet scary boards.
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Villain's AF is only 1.03. He's a calling station, so won't be bluffing. Bet big on every street, as he's calling with every pocket pair, and probably also just a deuce.
With PFR =2% it takes a lot of post flop aggression to get back to about 1 AF.

Why ignore OP's comments that don't agree with your "advice"?
 
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Thu Jan 02, 2014, 12:09 AM
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Hi betsizer,

I think you played it perfectly. This villain is not an aggressive bluffer, he's very passive both pre and post according to these stats. Did you have a specific observation that led you to feel like he was a bluffer?

And since all pairs have a full house now, I expect him to be calling us down with them, so betting is good.

@Joe, AF and AFq are post flop stats, they don't include preflop actions, this villain is indeed quite passive post flop as well as pre thus far.


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Thu Jan 02, 2014, 07:22 AM
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Thank you - lol never knew that AF was not counting in preflop - have learned again
 
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Thu Jan 02, 2014, 07:55 AM
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Thanks for straightening me out Dave. Haven't played cash online in a while and I am getting a bit rusty.

My apologies Arty.
 

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