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Fold AJ utg+2 against all in? - Sat Jan 04, 2014, 08:16 AM
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Hi Guys,

Hand:
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...214_0E1D707F6A

Last 39 players of 2 euro MTT, first 27 pay out.

Is this is a call from my side?

VPIP of villain is 24%

Cheers!

Rene
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 08:31 AM
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Can't call this, you are beating nothing.

You have a nice comfortable 40bb left, why risk a quarter of that for no reason? What happens if there is a shove behind you? You can't call so would be just spewing chips.

Just because the flop came with an A and a J it doesn't mean the right play is to call,

Remember the three most important things in poker:

Position, position, position.
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 08:36 AM
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I wouldn't bother about his hand range, because of his stack size it's wider than 24% . I would bother about opponents behind me. I would shove over from the button for sure,Just to call seems to weak , raise/fold seems the worst thing to do.
It seems better to fold from UTG +2 position I think.

Last edited by Shichi-77; Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:39 AM..
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Danutz75 View Post
Can't call this, you are beating nothing.
I disagree with this. Some people get panicky and feel that they have to start shoving with 10BB stacks (as turned out to be the case here).

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What happens if there is a shove behind you? You can't call so would be just spewing chips.
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I wouldn't bother about his hand range, because of his stack size it's wider than 24% . I would bother about opponents behind me. I would shove over from the button for sure,Just to call seems to weak , raise/fold seems the worst thing to do.
It seems better to fold from UTG +2 position I think.
These comments have nailed the key point here. The villain's range is not our only concern, you're in relatively early position and still have 6 people to act, any of whom could have picked up a monster that will reshove against you.

So folding is an excellent play.

FWIW if you knew V4 was a good player, his range SHOULD be much tighter because he's UTG, but obviously he isn't a good player, and a lot of people at micros do strange things sometimes.
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 01:02 PM
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Hey all!

I agree with Andy that folding is the best decision.

The one thing that I would not want to do is to call and invite the other players behind me into the pot. If I did want to play the hand (which I wouldn't), I'd re-shove to try to isolate.

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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 12:31 PM
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ok, pretty clear.

Thanks a lot!
 

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