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bad beat in 2nl or should i fold preflop - Sat Jan 04, 2014, 02:57 AM
flash347's Avatar
Since: May 2011
Posts: 135
Hi i have a read on this guy he very lag and they way the hand played flat calls my reraise after flop and checks turn im defo ahead get it in and he cant let it go and boom . any feedback would be great ie fold preflop or play it differently or hes just 1 of those that cant let it go.

PokerStars Zoom Hand #109558094524: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2014/01/04 7:30:37 WET [2014/01/04 2:30:37 ET]
Table 'McNaught' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mini sonic ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 2: 2coin ($3.83 in chips)
Seat 3: bcplayer12 ($1.69 in chips)
Seat 4: flash347 ($1.82 in chips)
Seat 5: KA9676128 ($2.72 in chips)
Seat 6: Bondezzon ($2.59 in chips)
Seat 7: pef1331 ($2 in chips)
Seat 8: Ruhlii ($6.08 in chips)
Seat 9: Barnaby67 ($3.01 in chips)
2coin: posts small blind $0.01
bcplayer12: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flash347 [Jc Kc]
flash347: raises $0.03 to $0.05
KA9676128: folds
Bondezzon: folds
pef1331: folds
Ruhlii: folds
Barnaby67: folds
mini sonic: folds
2coin: raises $0.13 to $0.18
bcplayer12: folds
flash347: calls $0.13
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3d Qs]
2coin: bets $0.36
flash347: raises $0.54 to $0.90
2coin: calls $0.54
*** TURN *** [Jd 3d Qs] [5c]
2coin: checks
flash347: bets $0.74 and is all-in
2coin: calls $0.74
*** RIVER *** [Jd 3d Qs 5c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
2coin: shows [Th Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
flash347: shows [Jc Kc] (a pair of Jacks)
2coin collected $3.53 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.66 | Rake $0.13
Board [Jd 3d Qs 5c Ts]
Seat 1: mini sonic (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 2coin (small blind) showed [Th Td] and won ($3.53) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: bcplayer12 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: flash347 showed [Jc Kc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: KA9676128 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bondezzon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pef1331 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Ruhlii folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Barnaby67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Sat Jan 04, 2014, 03:37 AM
flash347's Avatar
Since: May 2011
Posts: 135
HI ALL ive just noticed i posted in the wrong section ,if anybody can move it i would be grateful thanks
Sat Jan 04, 2014, 05:36 AM
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Since: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,261
It is a bad beat, but, KJ UTG is a fold in FR, AJ is usually a fold never-mind KJ.
Sat Jan 04, 2014, 10:54 AM
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Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,568
xxx Post Moved xxx

Sun Jan 05, 2014, 03:06 AM
Roland GTX's Avatar
Since: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,905
Hi flash347

Im glad you found the Cash section. For future hands please use the hand replayer. It makes it easier for everyone to follow the action. I did your hand for you

Let's look at the preflop action first. From early position, KJs is too weak to play. I would recommend 1010+ and AQs+ for utg. Regardless of your cards though, you should be opening for a larger raise, especially from early position. I would recommend 3bb - 4bb from utg. Your small raise encourages players to join the pot rather than pressuring them to fold.

Most players have a tight range when opening from ep. So, when the sb 3 bets into your strong range, we should give him credit for having a strong hand. Even maniacs get good hands sometimes. I would have folded to the 3b. You do have position, but your hand risks getting dominated by AJ and AK which can be costly.

Now let's look at the postflop action. Getting solid reads on opponents is a huge part of the game. Im not sure what you based your read on, but it seems like you did a great job. Personally, I would have folded the flop. The villain has shown strength preflop and on the flop. You have middle pair. By continuing with the hand and raising, you are basically turning your hand into a bluff catcher. This line can work, but at 2NL I typically focus on value betting rather than semi-bluffing. Moreover, your raise size is quite big. Normally I raise between 2. and 2.5x the bet. Betting more risks getting you value owned.

You got an unlucky river card, but this is not a bad beat. Your desicions preflop and postflop are very high risk. You risked your entire stack on a marginal starting hand, flopped middle pair on the assumution that the villain was bluffing. I think you will show a more stable profit by sticking to value betting at 2NL.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
Sun Jan 05, 2014, 03:12 AM
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Since: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,905
fixing the evaluation text.
Sun Jan 05, 2014, 03:12 AM
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Since: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,905
Sun Jan 05, 2014, 01:03 PM
flash347's Avatar
Since: May 2011
Posts: 135
HI Roland thanks for taking the time to evaluate this hand and your spot on fold pre or worst on the flop, betting to small pre . i am trying to work on these things at moment roland thanks for your time and feedback much appreciated, gl at the tables
regards flash

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