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PSO Open was I wrong ? - Sat Jan 04, 2014, 07:28 PM
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Did I play this wrong ?

The Villain had been constantly re-raising me.
Almost every time I raised he would re-raise me quite often to where I had no choice but to fold, so I expected him to raise it up on me. He had shown down some rubbish, won some lost some but sucked out quite a bit. We are at level eleven 878 left in from 10K



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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 07:46 PM
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League game or not, this is a fist-pump call, whether villain is a lagfish or an ubernit.

Folding aces pre-flop requires a pretty specific situation (e.g. bubble of satellite). This is not that situation. You got all in as a 4:1 favourite. How can that possibly be wrong?


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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 10:15 PM
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Easiest call ever.
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 11:35 PM
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Hi Bill!

With AA or any other hand I'm going to raise with, I'm going to make a standard raise, which is to between 3X the previous bet and a pot-sized raise. A pot-sized raise is larger, so I'll raise to 2200. The opp now shoves on me. This is a dream scenario and I'm snap-calling. This far into a league game, I'd call much lighter than with AA.

The only mistake that could be made with this hand... is to NOT call the shove.

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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 05:50 AM
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He got lucky with his 88 vs AA there Bill.
Check this hand of AA, I assumed there's no Queen with the other players but I'm all-in whatever play.
I should have shoved from the start.
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 12:07 PM
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Hi TR1V1A!

I totally disagree about shoving.. it's too many chips. However, with AA, I need to make a standard raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper.

By min-raising after a limp, the opp gets the correct odds to play any 2 cards at you... and if they get the odds, they expect to and will gain chips on average.

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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 03:04 PM
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Yeah Bill, as played insta shove.

MAYBE you might find a fold on the coordinated board if he only flats your raise PF, and you check to see him shove the flop, but even there I doubt it with the image you have of him. Given the SPR going ot the flop of under 3, most flops that have AA as an over pair are going to see you doing whatever you can to assure you get the chips in ASAP. But of course that is not what happened here...

As for the comment about shoving when it comes to you, I dis-agree with that line also, and agree with John. 28BB is way too big a stack to ship in my opinion, unless you have a SPECIFIC reason to believe this is the absolute best way to assure the villain will call/shove. Seeing as how he was palying back at your raises so frequently, I'd say the EXACT thing you;d want to do here is give him the chance to continue that pattern. Shoving over his open is not going to give him the chance to play back at you wrongly; he might CALL wrongly, but then calling isn't his leak, raising too often is...


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