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I'm still in shock - Sat Jan 04, 2014, 07:51 PM
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Talk about bad beat, can't get any worse than this and this is the 3rd time today its happened
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 08:45 PM
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Shocked? Why?

You are a short stack with less than 1 orbit left. The villain is getting about 2:1 pot odd. If your range is limited to TT+ AT+ is breakeven for them to call.

Remember, they are playing your range, not your hand.
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 10:08 PM
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Have to agree with Joe,

Why are you shocked?

you lost with Aces, guess what I'd be more worried about how i got to be short stacked.

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Sat Jan 04, 2014, 11:42 PM
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I agree with Joe too. The opp only needs 30% equity to call and KJ vs a short stack shove range has well over this. Against a 30% range, KJo has 49% equity.. so the opp expects to gain 19% everytime they call here.

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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 12:08 AM
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Shocked because it was the 3rd time today with the exact same cards, not the same chip count or the same position, but the exact same cards none the less, me with aces and the villains with kj with the board coming up with a FH for the villain.

I guess I should have been clearer in my original post that my shock was specifically aimed at the triple event

In this particular incidence though your comment is bang on about how my concern should lie with how I got short stacked grade b.

And I agree Joe, I do need to remember that its my range not my hand Something else I need to add to my study list

Last edited by auntyrae; Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 12:24 AM.. Reason: additional info
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by auntyrae View Post
Shocked because it was the 3rd time today with the exact same cards, not the same chip count or the same position, but the exact same cards none the less, me with aces and the villains with kj with the board coming up with a FH for the villain.

I guess I should have been clearer in my original post that my shock was specifically aimed at the triple event

In this particular incidence though your comment is bang on about how my concern should lie with how I got short stacked grade b.

And I agree Joe, I do need to remember that its my range not my hand Something else I need to add to my study list
Play enough poker and you will see just about everything. We just tend to remember to exceptions, especially negative ones, more easily. (It's a survival thing I guess.)

And you learned a couple of thinks by posting your mini-rant. That, my friend, is ++EV.
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 09:43 AM
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Play enough poker and you will see just about everything. We just tend to remember to exceptions, especially negative ones, more easily. (It's a survival thing I guess.)

And you learned a couple of thinks by posting your mini-rant. That, my friend, is ++EV.
And dignified, Intelligent, Respectful responses like that are +EV for the community as a whole.. Touch of class there Joe!
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by auntyrae View Post
Shocked because it was the 3rd time today with the exact same cards, not the same chip count or the same position, but the exact same cards none the less, me with aces and the villains with kj with the board coming up with a FH for the villain.

I guess I should have been clearer in my original post that my shock was specifically aimed at the triple event

In this particular incidence though your comment is bang on about how my concern should lie with how I got short stacked grade b.

And I agree Joe, I do need to remember that its my range not my hand Something else I need to add to my study list
Yes three times same hand will give you pause, I took a break yesterday for an hour when my Pocket kings made trips twice in 24 hours to complete a str8 and knock me out.

This shows not as Joe says anything unusual with the poker but rather that I have not yet mastered the mental side of poker.

I am at the stage where I can say yes I know i could be beat there (rather than the old "how could he play QTo there to my raise!!!) but I still struggle at times to keep my balance and play solid poker. Taking a break helps me.

Study is helping even more. reading the forums helps as I come across situations Like this one Where had it of happened to me I would be steaming and I can comment more subjectively as I didn't have to go through the pain. Hopefully when it does happen to me next I remember this post......


Grade b


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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 12:51 PM
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Thanks for the feedback Grade b and everyone else, studying is top of my priority list for the first part of this year, I figure the more I can absorb the better chance I have of improving my game.

Getting smacked with these types of hands can only serve to teach me the other aspects of the game I need to brush up on, especially the mental side of it. That side of the game is something I really need to wrap my head around...

Another thing to add to my "study list" ... geesh its getting longer and longer, lol
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 01:31 PM
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Many thanks Stix.

Emotional events like this can be turned into a lesson learned/reinforced by open minded players like auntyrae and others.
 

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