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5nl zoom. Facing checkshove OTR vs shorty - Sat Jan 04, 2014, 09:15 PM
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morduk666's Avatar
Since: Aug 2011
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Am I setting up myself against bluffs? Can I squeeze at least something with the turn bet?

How should this line go given the situation?

Last edited by morduk666; Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:24 PM..
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 12:46 AM
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I'm betting the turn no matter what - 3 flush board?

OK, then if jam raised with a stupid - I've got an Ace (no value), let it go. Smaller re-raise to our turn bet not sure what to do.

As played, not betting the turn and such a small river bet you are open to be bluffed. We will never know. Sort of think like "what does your opponent call pre flop" with?

Last edited by ForrestFive; Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 12:51 AM.. Reason: not scared of 3 flush card board
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2014, 09:54 AM
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Hi morduk666,

Because the turn brings an Ace (an overcard to our pair) it turns our hand into a 2 street value hand instead of 3 imo.
With that said, we need to be checking one street either turn or river. Being OOP also makes things worse for us because we won't be able to check back the river. So I think we can either bet/fold turn and check/fold river OR check turn and bet/fold river. I think each line would serve a better purpose depending on the villain type; if the villain is passive then we can check and not worry about getting bluffed in which case I would prefer betting the turn because they might call with some naked diamond chasing the flush but will not bet as a bluff when we check the river to them. Against a strong opponent it gets tricky especially when we are OOP. Somehow, I'm more inclined to bet the turn because I really don't want to give a free card here.
 

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