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2NL FR Zoom - KK in the SB - Wed Jan 08, 2014, 03:36 AM
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Is this always a check fold to that flop bet? Should I have 4Bet bigger?
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 03:53 AM
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Hello,
your play looks like a play in a tilt You need right opponent to take such line but I think there aren't a lot of them What hand did you put him ? I would 4 bet bigger at about 20bb .
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 04:09 AM
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4-bet to 35c or more. Against tough opponents it's sometimes an idea to c-bet the flop, since you're OOP and don't want to get bluffed off your hand by QQ/JJ or worse. I usually check-fold, however, as 2NL FR players will usually check back anything that you beat, and will bet with AK/AQ almost always, especially when they make a committing bet like this.
Your turn play is a massive spew, I'm afraid. If you can't fold the flop, you simply have to fold the turn. There is not a single hand you beat when villain barrels there.


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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 04:12 AM
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at least you could have played bet/fold on the flop
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shichi-77 View Post
Hello,
your play looks like a play in a tilt You need right opponent to take such line but I think there aren't a lot of them What hand did you put him ? I would 4 bet bigger at about 20bb .
Correct, I did not put him at AK and was unhappy with the A on the flop. I 4bet to 25BB there but should've made it 35-50c as Arty suggests.
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:18 AM
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I agree with Arty and Shichi about the 4Bet and I think you knew yourself that your 4Bet was too small. You should make it about 3x the 3Bet, something like $0.35 for value. Don't give people the right price to call with speculative hands that can outdraw you.

I think I'd CBet the flop intending to fold to a raise and give up if he calls and you don't improve. Although if Arty is right that most villains at 2NL wouldn't take a stab with QQ/JJ after you haven't CBet, then check/folding is probably a better play. After all, at 2NL the bulk of your profit should come from value betting strong hand, not bluffing with mediocre ones.

I'm not sure why you didn't think he could have AK there? Moreover, he could have AQ, AJ, 88, maybe even 44.

Therefore the check/calling on the flop is really spewy and getting all your chips in on the turn is going to hurt your winrate massively.
 

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