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25NL 6Max Zoom - TPTK vs aggression - Thu Jan 09, 2014, 06:55 AM
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Villain: 18/15, AF: 4 Raise CBet: 1/3 (112 hands)

In some ways this is a spot that comes up fairly regularly.

I bet/called flop and called turn because I felt that he could be taking this line both with made hands and draws with the occasional pure bluff thrown in.

Is my line OK or should I have found a fold earlier on in the hand? Could I even call river to bluff catch?
 
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Thu Jan 09, 2014, 09:49 AM
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Vs these kinda stats i'd actually fold the turn because we are likely facing a river bet we can pretty much never call.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:23 AM
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I think it might be a close decision OTT. I might play it the same way too depending on villain's street by street aggression. Obviously there are not too many strong hands in villain's range except 22/44 and even then some opponents would prefer 3betting those as a bluff instead of calling with 66-22 (maybe not so much from the BB) and also I don't think there are too many Jx hands that would decide to raise - not from this opponent I think.
So bluffs, semi bluffs could be the bigger portion of their range. Hands like spade draws, A3s, As2s, etc. Calling on the 5 of hearts is a much clear case. The 5d just adds 4 outs but I'm a bit hesitant to fold yet because I expect villain to bet turn once they x/r flop as a bluff. It's a rarity that I see someone x/r flop and then checks turn, in my experience.
I think you might have missed to plan your hand when you call flop raise. Once I'm raised OTF, I'm immediately thinking if I call here what turn cards do I want to see? and what turn cards will I fold to? Would be interesting to see how the action unfolds on an Ace
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:50 AM
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Vs these kinda stats i'd actually fold the turn because we are likely facing a river bet we can pretty much never call.
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It's a rarity that I see someone x/r flop and then checks turn, in my experience.
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I think you might have missed to plan your hand when you call flop raise. Once I'm raised OTF, I'm immediately thinking if I call here what turn cards do I want to see? and what turn cards will I fold to? Would be interesting to see how the action unfolds on an Ace
I'm confused - shouldn't I fold flop or call three streets if it runs out brick-brick like it did here? What's the value of calling the flop if I'm going to face a turn bet close to 100% of the time and I'm going to have to fold turn or river?
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 11:25 AM
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I would have play it like you did, mainly because I see a lot of players firing a 2nd barrel with their draws regardless if the turn that adds equity to their hand or fold equity, and on the river i see a lot of regs at 25nl zoom just giving up river with their missed draws.
 

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