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10000 Turbo 9 Man SnGs [Ash1591] - Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:35 PM
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I feel I have a good turbo SnG game so I feel I can really make a lot of profit from these games, so I'm going to embark on a huge challenge of completing 10,000 of them. I feel I will be able to do this in 3 months max and at this time I will be able to re-evaluate my poker goals.

I will be grinding these starting with playing 8 at a time, hopefully increasing up to 16 as time goes on. Currently I can just about handle 8 so the more I play the more I feel I will be able to handle. I will be looking to make $1 profit each one which will leave me with a bankroll of 10k+ if all goes well.

Starting Bankroll: $500

Total games played: 52 of 10000

Total buy-in: $181 of $35000

Total return: $153.60 of $45000 (aimed return)

Average profit: $0 per game


ITM Finishes:

1st: 5
2nd:
3rd:

Along with the $3.50 Turbo SnGs I will be playing the Hot $4.40 and the Hot $3.30 every day when I start my grinding this early. I play some live poker but recently have experienced a down swing so I will be concentrating on my online poker for a while. However, I have £110 deepstack tournament coming up which I will be updating in this thread aswell.

I will aim to update this thread every 20 games played.


Side Goal

Along with the goal of completing 10,000 SnGs I will be looking at getting in either the High or Low Orbit for $3.50 games every week until the challenge is complete.

Another side goal is to final table either the $3.30 or the $4.40. Because I have been close on a number of occasions but never actually made it.


Also if you were wondering how I play these SnGs then I would suggest looking at Tweedle's blog on them he plays a very similar way to me.

Last edited by Ash1591; Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 01:52 AM..
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 04:47 PM
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Also if you were wondering how I play these SnGs then I would suggest looking at Tweedle's blog on them he plays a very similar way to me.
In no way should I be considered an authority. I have a lot to learn still.

Anyways good luck with this endeavor.

I will be interested in following your BotP challenge. I have found it very hard to be consistent enough for the leader boards.
 
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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:14 AM
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Tweedle I wasn't saying you are an authority just saying I play a similar way to you, but if I get a good hand early on I'm not worried about getting it in.

I just had a very bad session of 10 tournaments so I won't be getting either this week I feel but next week is when I properly start on this challenge.

Just played 20 didn't turn a profit due to a very bad second session of 10 but I can't moan as I will experience downturns in my games its just the way it goes. I mean in one I got it all in preflop with Kings and someone had Ace 7 offsuit and gets triple 7s.
 
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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:27 AM
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Good Luck!!

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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 02:52 PM
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Thanks Pinoy, hopefully I can succeed and really achieve a bankroll from this.

Going to the local casino with £100 ($160) to play some cash tonight hopefully get some drunk people playing means more money for me.

I haven't been able to get any games in today due to going out last night felt pretty rough all day however next week I aim to get 500 games completed. However, I have an assignment in for the Thursday so I will need to get some crazy volume in on Friday. I will also be starting my assignment this Sunday so I am more free to play next week.
 
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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:35 PM
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Just got back from the Casino managed to come back with £290 ($460) so a good night all in all and bought a steak whilst I was there. Going to get some turbo games done then won't be playing at all tomorrow so hoping to get another 20 done now will edit this post with the results.

Sorry to double post just updating the challenge on my live progress tonight.
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:04 AM
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Cool,congratulation on your wining.
What stakes did u play live, and how many hands??
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:12 AM
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Cool,congratulation on your wining.
What stakes did u play live, and how many hands??
Cheers mate I play £1/£1 ($1.60/$1.60) and I will most likely straddle for £2 aswell. I played for about 4 and a half hours all together. I play reasonably tight but I'm not scared to bluff which I did a lot of tonight.

Hard to say how many hands due to it being live.
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:12 AM
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Managed to break the 50 game barrier and have not been putting the volume in required to get any good return, I'm on a bad streak at the moment in the turbos but I have evaluated my play and think I have probably played too hard in the early levels and have been losing too much early on which is not beneficial in getting to the money.

I will play tighter poker early on in these (7-9 players) in order to have a stack for when the blinds go up.

After I finish my assignment due for Thursday I should have a lot of spare time to play on Friday prior to a £110 ($175) live tournament I'm playing so I should get a good 200 games in this week. I will be aiming to build this number up to 1000 in the next few weeks.

EDIT: I just decided to play just 1 to play the best game I could possible to try and turn my down string around and managed to win it so I'm going to reduce the amount of games to 4 at a time for a little while.

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Sun Jan 19, 2014, 08:25 PM
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Managed to bust my whole bankroll and will not be putting anymore on for a few days as a restriction by myself due to my stupid play. I experienced some tilt and a bad run and did not give up when I was running bad which resulted in a bankroll bust. Also in the live £110 I played I got it in with K10s and big stack calls with 109s he had hearts I had diamonds no diamonds or hearts on the flop and he rivers a 9 I can safely say I was very tilted.

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Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:24 PM
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Don't be too hard on yourself.

Don't punish yourself (putting restrictions on yourself etc), it's counter-productive.

What I am trying to say is by doing this you are focusing on the "running bad or stupid play" - you mentioned above.

No good can come from that.

You know where you went wrong, you obviously love the game, so why not just drop down to $1.50 9 man STTs instead of not playing because of a bad run, and a few bad decisions. Giving up (or restricting yourself) for however many days or weeks you might think as an appropriate "sentence" is why I am posting this reply.

Why not just drop down to the $1.50 STTs for a while, but play them the way you know how to and not worry about the mistakes of the past but rather keep putting in the volume and making the correct decisions and finally as soon as you feel the "hint" of any "tilt" - tell yourself.........."hey Ash...we got to get these thoughts out of my head immediately. I have a hand to play and these "evil" thoughts are not invited, I need to make the right decision with the hand in front of me - nothing else matters at this stage". - and it is really that simple.

I'm just sharing some mindset tips that have helped me to not think about "running bad or tilting", as best I can, and it really isn't that difficult.

So by playing the $1.50 STTs and the only thing you have to think about is making the right decision with every hand is a far better "restriction" in my opinion.

That's basically it.

No monetary goals by a certain date, or anything that takes your focus away from the two cards you have in front of you, are welcome in your mind when you are playing a hand.

That's all that matters at this point.

I'm no expert and don't have a big bankroll, in fact my bankroll is tiny, but it is moving in the right direction, even when I don't cash in 9 or 10 $1.50 STTs in a row, I would take a few hours break, or do what I need to do to get my focus back, and then somehow, I always seem to finish in the top 3 in the next 9 out of 11 or 12 STTs and it doesn't stop there.
In fact those "losing streaks" are few and far between (in the last 6 months it's happened to me only twice, but in the past I always just seemed to remember the few losses so much more than all the small profits).....it's human nature, and I try not to think like that anymore.

I'll wrap this up with a quote from one of the best professional golfers of all time.

“The more I practice, the luckier I get.” -- Gary Player.

Put in the volume Ash, it really does work. Push that "luck factor" out by playing your A-game. But for the next few days or how ever long you want, just play the $1.50 level.



Sorry for the long post, but I felt I had to say something after reading the post you made a few hours ago.
I hope you understand what I mean and you don't take what I've typed as "instructions" but rather as "options".

I hope to see you at a few $1.50 STT tables rather than reading about you putting restrictions on yourself, it's a lot more rewarding at the tables, and you know that.

All the best.

SL
 
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Mon Jan 20, 2014, 03:49 PM
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Managed to bust my whole bankroll and will not be putting anymore on for a few days as a restriction by myself due to my stupid play. I experienced some tilt and a bad run and did not give up when I was running bad which resulted in a bankroll bust. Also in the live £110 I played I got it in with K10s and big stack calls with 109s he had hearts I had diamonds no diamonds or hearts on the flop and he rivers a 9 I can safely say I was very tilted.
Sad to hear this. Did it all go in the $3.50s or did you go to higher stakes or ring games?

It is important to drop stakes as soon as a significant part of bankroll is lost. Challenge or no challenge.
 
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Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:29 PM
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Long post by SL
I have read through your post and I'm actually really pleased you took the time to type that post out as it has put a lot into perspective for me and I am going to reload for $177 later in the week which will give me 100 buyins for the $1.50 STTs and a entry into the first event of the TCOOP (which I really wanted to play) I am going to grind these all the way up to $1.05k so I have 300 buyins at $3.50. Maybe only 200 buyins but I'm going to restrict myself to purely one or two MTTs a day and just the $1.50 STT.

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Sad to hear this. Did it all go in the $3.50s or did you go to higher stakes or ring games?

It is important to drop stakes as soon as a significant part of bankroll is lost. Challenge or no challenge.
It went on Zoom Heads up games I played 1 guy and lost my whole roll +$1k it was truely horrible. I'm going to reload on Thursday this week and play the first event in the TCOOP and move down to $1.50 stakes until I get 300 Buyins at $3.50 so downswings can occur.
 
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Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:18 AM
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Thanks for the update.
Let us know how things are going.

The "bolded" words in the quote below worry me a little. (sorry, but it needed saying - PM me if you want and I'll explain why I say this).

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I am going to grind these all the way up to $1.05k so I have 300 buyins at $3.50. Maybe only 200 buyins but I'm going to restrict myself to purely one or two MTTs a day and just the $1.50 STT.
I'm glad you are going to start playing again and if there is anything you want to know or are unsure of then just ask.
If you get into a difficult situation in a hand or tournament, then posting about it in this thread will help you deal those situations in future games.

The PSO community will help you to overcome/avoid these spots.

And remember that you can send me a private message anytime if there is anything else you want to know or are unsure of.



SL
 
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Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:22 PM
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It sounds like you've done really well with the STT turbos, so if you stick with those hopefully you'll have your roll back in no time - GL GL with the grind!!
 

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