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10Nl 6-max Zoom 89s - Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:08 AM
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Hi, villain is unknown and is playing only one table.

I decided to 3B pre-flop since I didn't like flatting, the button could come along or some squeeze could happen. If I was on the button I'd be more inclined to flat.
I used a small sizing since I want to play bloated pots against possible bad players, IP, and with iniciative.

Should I check back the flop ? If I had 8h7h should i be more inclined to bet since if we get raised we can fold the hand? Here we do have some equity.

Should I fold the turn ?

How I calculate my implied odds here ?
2.87 (pot) + 1.4(his bet) + 1.4 (when I'll call)+ 2.89 (his stack left)=8.56
8.56/1.4= 6:1 odds right ?
Or I should NOT use the '1.4 (when I'll call)' on the calculation.



Cheers!
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:10 AM
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Edit: oh 5nl.

Fold the turn

You could also have your flush draw dominated.

Last edited by birdayy; Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 08:39 AM..
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:28 AM
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Sorry, this is actually 5NL Zoom.
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:44 AM
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You meant fold to the flop check raise, right ?
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:58 AM
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"I decided to 3B pre-flop since I didn't like flatting, the button could come along or some squeeze could happen. If I was on the button I'd be more inclined to flat."

3betting imo is way better than calling yes. But I think folding is okay too. I'm rarely calling with SCs vs MP/CO even when OTB. The only time when I would flat is against an UTG open with hands like 98s+, T8s+ because there is little chance that we get squeezed anyways and when we do get 3bet we can almost always assign a value hand for the 3bettor.

"I used a small sizing since I want to play bloated pots against possible bad players, IP, and with iniciative."
I think you mean you used a bigger sizing because a standard 3x would be 0.36? I'm not sure I like 3betting with this type of hand vs a bad player since we hardly get them to fold and we need to rely on semi-bluffing spots with small to medium SCs to make them profitable. I'd rather 3bet for value with a wider range against weaker opponents whom I think are more inclined to call to see flops and get sticky with some random TP bad kicker where I can dominate them and extract max value with TPTK+

If we think a club is actually a clean out for us then we have 9 outs or 18% equity to see the river and according to Owen Gains' implied odds chart in his book: Poker Math that Matters we need to win 4x their bet or 1.4 x 4 = 5.6$
The pot has 4.26$ (2.87 + 1.4). We subtract that from what we need, so 5.6 - 4.26 = 1.34$ Which means we need to win 1.34$ more OTR to breakeven on our turn call in implied odds. He has 2.89$ more so we have implied odds IF a club is a clean card AND IF villain will put the rest in with Qx on a club.
 

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