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2NL FR Zoom - AJo vs BB donk - Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:19 PM
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Should I have taken more time to reevaluate his River bet, I felt sure I was ahead at the time?
 
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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:52 PM
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Donkbets are often draws. Your raise OTF is too low, imo. I would like it to be 3 - 4 times his bet.

OTT i think I would have raised again and fold to a reraise.

OTR I would just call

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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 06:52 PM
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I'm not sure why you're making these strange minbets and min raises, you're not achieving anything with this sort of bet sizing.

Like Ray says, people usually donkbet small with weak one-pair hands or draws that they want to see a cheap turn card with. I like the raise, but I would make it much bigger than you made it to give him an incorrect price to chase his draw and get value from worse Jx or 8x hands that he doesn't want to fold. $0.18 looks like a good sort of sizing.

The turn is a poisoned chalice, completing the flush draw while giving you trips. I still think that there is a good chance you have the best hand here so you could raise villain's turn donklead and fold to a reraise. However I don't mind calling and seeing a cheap river as flushes make up a decent part of villain's range. You might also make a boat and stack off a bad villain.

On the river you have two options. If you think your opponent is a fish who's often block betting with 8x or a weak Jx, then you can raise for value, but you should raise bigger for the same reasons I explained on the flop. However I think just calling is the better option as I doubt that villain is calling a raise with too many worse hands other than KJ, QJ or J9, which don't make up that many combos.

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I felt sure I was ahead at the time?
You've posted this type of comment before. What thought process did you use to come to this conclusion? Why did you rule out a flush?
 
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Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:57 AM
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I'm not sure why you're making these strange minbets and min raises, you're not achieving anything with this sort of bet sizing.

Like Ray says, people usually donkbet small with weak one-pair hands or draws that they want to see a cheap turn card with. I like the raise, but I would make it much bigger than you made it to give him an incorrect price to chase his draw and get value from worse Jx or 8x hands that he doesn't want to fold. $0.18 looks like a good sort of sizing.

The turn is a poisoned chalice, completing the flush draw while giving you trips. I still think that there is a good chance you have the best hand here so you could raise villain's turn donklead and fold to a reraise. However I don't mind calling and seeing a cheap river as flushes make up a decent part of villain's range. You might also make a boat and stack off a bad villain.

On the river you have two options. If you think your opponent is a fish who's often block betting with 8x or a weak Jx, then you can raise for value, but you should raise bigger for the same reasons I explained on the flop. However I think just calling is the better option as I doubt that villain is calling a raise with too many worse hands other than KJ, QJ or J9, which don't make up that many combos.



You've posted this type of comment before. What thought process did you use to come to this conclusion? Why did you rule out a flush?
I think an incomplete/newbie thought process. I did not know that donking the flop at 2NL is usually the sign of someone chasing draws. This blinkered my range to Jx hands with weak kickers and I paid him off blind to the flush. Now that I know what these donks are doing, I will price them out. I am not thinking enough about opps ranges and will work on it.
 
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Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:42 AM
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Just be careful not to get too blinded by what you'd like villain to have and make sure you consider all possibilities of what they could have.
 

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