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5NL 6-max Zoom c/r dry board - Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:17 PM
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Hi, I know that we should only be posting one hand per thread.
But I wanted to analyze a spot in general, which I'm facing often.

How do deal with check raises on dry boards where villain represents nothing ? Especially min-raises. I know most of the times we should just fold if we have air. But how should we adjust?

(If I should post this on another part of the Forum, please tell me)




Cheers!

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Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:08 AM
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I would probably call in both spots.

- Min-raise give you a really good price, especially when you are in position, and we should peel wide.
- If villain makes a normally sized bet on the subsequent street, then we can fold more often. so our range to continue will look like we call the min-raise a lot and give up a lot later, but that's just a response-function to the respective prices we are laid.
- the first example is a pretty great one, imo, of how we should continue. You are drawing to four outs to the nuts, they are going to come about 1 in ever 11 times. Of course other things can happen, you hit a T villain checks, you hit an A, villain doesn't bet big, its a K turn, it checks down you win v TJ, etc. I would size your initial c-bet smaller in the AT hand, but I would definitely still peel here on the flop and give up a lot afterwards. I would rather peel here with my JT/AT/AJ than with say QJ. If villain has a hand like K5 they are figuring out where they are at or what have you, AT has way better equity than QJ because it has nut equity and 7 outs. QJ just has 5 outs and they aren't *****d. What if villain has AQ? or KJ? In any case those straight draws have outs to the nuts and to clear value propositions. So there will be a lot better examples than the hand 1 (ie when you have a good or the nut flush draw or a medium flush draw with a super-disguised gutterball) where you'd rather have a draw facing a min-raise than a pair, even a good pair.

- the 2nd example I think you can fold if you know villain is doing it with 9X+. But some villains can do it with any pair any draw. There aren't a lot of draws on this board, but we crush them, since they usually have 1 over+1gutter and we are ip. We also crush pairs like 55 or 3x. If the range is 9X+ we are crushed, otherwise we're doing fine, and either way we are ip and on this street we are getting good price. If we get a bad price later, we can surrender. But like hand 2 I would never fold A4/A5/56/45 on the flop. Never.

I guess I'm just a station
 
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Sun Jan 19, 2014, 07:29 AM
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Thanks for the insights Gareth.
I'll put them to work on the session today.

Cheers!
 

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