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25nl Zoom - Bottom of my made hand range into bluff - Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:33 PM
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Villain is a 4 tabling zoom reg.

I felt that this hand is low enough in my range to turn into a bluff otr since we are often never good vs his bet.

His bet also indicated thin value that i feel will fold if raised to.

I feel I could rep hands like 87o, JT, J9, KQ (we have a blocker yay) so we need to throw hands like these in for balance I assume.

Thoughts on line / sizing?
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 05:47 AM
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I doubt floating the turn OOP in a vacuum can be +EV so you have to have some sort of plan for the river.

Were you just planning to get to showdown or was your plan to check/raise most rivers? Was your plan to lead some rivers where you had made 2 pair or trips for example?
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:09 AM
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Would you x/c KQ and 87 on that turn though? JT makes sense i dont know about J9 though can we x/c J9 on that turn, what worse hands does he bet that he calls the flop with thats worse than 9x.

If we float that flop IP with OC would that be a good spot to bet that turn.
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:53 PM
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I doubt floating the turn OOP in a vacuum can be +EV so you have to have some sort of plan for the river.
but he has a pair!
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:55 PM
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I would probably just check-call the flop with this hand. Its not like villain has a ton of dominated 3X/KX that are calling 1 bet much less 2-3 streets. I would probably barrel the turn and empty the clip on the river as played, which kind of highlights why we should play the flop differently in this spot.

The river I have no idea. This is not the best combination with which to do this (I am guessing) so you need a pretty otherworldly gameflow read to do this. But those do occur from time to time
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 04:02 PM
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I would probably just check-call the flop with this hand. Its not like villain has a ton of dominated 3X/KX that are calling 1 bet much less 2-3 streets. I would probably barrel the turn and empty the clip on the river as played, which kind of highlights why we should play the flop differently in this spot.

The river I have no idea. This is not the best combination with which to do this (I am guessing) so you need a pretty otherworldly gameflow read to do this. But those do occur from time to time
If you x/c flop here what do you do on the turn?

This is a spot where i just turn my hand into a bluff and fire 2 barrels and normally give up on the river.
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2014, 04:50 PM
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If you x/c flop here what do you do on the turn?
never fold
 

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