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$2.5 90's KQo 13bb SB - Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:03 PM
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MP: 14.03 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BTN: 16 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 53)
BB: 18.82 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 72.97 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)


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is it a shove pre-flop?
 
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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:38 AM
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Hello, Sapines1001!

I like the way you played here. IMO with 12,5BB stack and KQof isnt worth here to go all-in in 5way pot preflop agains two loose and two semi-loose players. I think this is ungrateful shoving spot where most of the time we can be called by Ax or 44-88 and be behind.

I think call pre and fold to any raise on the cold board is ok here. I will shove my KQof against tight/passive players which allows me to collect 1300 dead money. In KO tourney, when everyone needs my head, against loose players I just flat.

Good luck!
 
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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:26 PM
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Hi sapines1001!

With KQ from the SB, I get 3 limps in front of me.

With a 12BB stack in front of me, this is a perfect situation for a squeeze and my stack size is perfect for it too. I'm absolutely going to shove here as I need to accumulate chips and with a shove-stack, I want to be the first one into the pot by shoving, not calling a shove with a hand like KQ. I don't have much fold equity left, so I want to maximize what I do have.

A standard raise pot-commits me (5.5BB), so if I play the hand, I need to shove. I don't want to call here and have a hand OOP that is easily dominated. I'm also going to be squeezing fairly wide here too, especially if the opps are most likely to fold. I actually made a play like this (less chips in my stack) with 57s in my live league last week.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JWK24 View Post
I'm absolutely going to shove here as I need to accumulate chips and with a shove-stack, I want to be the first one into the pot by shoving, not calling a shove with a hand like KQ.
Then I think I missunderstood this play..So we don't care that this is 4way pot and players are loose, we just shove? I just want to make it clear for me Thanks!
 
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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:57 PM
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Hi MyNumber7!

The reason I'm shoving here is not to play a pot against multiple opps, I'm trying to steal the chips that are already in the middle, as this over 40% of my stack. Having KQ to go to showdown with is my backup plan, just in case I'm called. If I had more chips, I'd make a standard raise to 2.5BB+1BB for each limper... but this bet would pot-commit me (put over 1/3 of my stack in the middle), so I either need to shove or fold.. I can't do something in between.

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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:56 PM
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then i think folding KQ is weak play and also calling KQ doesn't work well in 5way pot so shoving is the best. thank you
 
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Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:12 PM
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Thanks, JWK24!
 

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