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10nl, 6-max ... Is this a spew? - Mon Jan 27, 2014, 09:34 PM
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I had only been at this table for about 20 hands or so, and had not played with the villain in question before. He isn't a reg, and seemed to be playing a lot of hands. I had seen him flat call J9o from the small blind to an UTG+1 3x raise (and win with a flop that had two Js on it). I was putting him in a weak player category.

Pre-flop: When he limps I raise for value, he calls.

Flop: I thought it was unlikely that the flop hit him and when he bets pot size I thought he was just hoping for me to fold. I called with the hopes of him leading again on the turn.

Turn: He leads the turn and with a second potential flush draw out there I figured I shouldn't flat call again. I 3bet thinking that he might fold, but if he shoves then he probably has an Ace weaker than mine or if I was unlucky he made a boat with A6, A4, 66, or 44. I didn't really give much consideration to AJ+ due to the pre-flop limp ...





I have been thinking about the hand and have been trying to decide if I should have been able to get away from it somehow, or not played for stacks. When he shoves over my 3bet on the turn I guess is the decision point. Should I be folding there? Is this a spew?

Just looking at the board without any "reads" on villain then AJ,AQ,AK,A6,A4,66,44 are hands that I am losing against while A2,A3,A5,A7,A8,A9 are hands that I am winning against. Seven loses vs Six wins.

Thanks for any insights


Note: This hand was not played on Pokerstars (because I can't play for real money on PS due to being in the US), but I edited a pokerstars hand so I could use the replayer to show what happened in this hand. It is a real money hand.
 
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Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:20 PM
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Hi Ty,

Given the erratic, recreational nature of the villain here, I think the way you played the hand is fine and see no reason to consider not stacking off here.

One potentially valuable piece of info escapes me though...
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I had seen him flat call J9o from the small blind to an UTG+1 3x raise (and win with a flop that had two Js on it).
How did he execute that win? Check/raise? Donk flop for a pot sized bet? (you see where I'm going with this)

I don't think it matters much though tbh... even if hypothetically we saw him donk pot on the flop with the trip jacks, it's not enough for us to find a fold in this hand. He could have worse aces, or do this with draws as well, which we don't know yet. So ultimately, not folding AT here.


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Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the eval Dave


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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
One potentially valuable piece of info escapes me though...


How did he execute that win? Check/raise? Donk flop for a pot sized bet? (you see where I'm going with this)

Lol, yeah, I see where you were going with that. He did check it to the raiser on the flop in that hand. I went back and looked at it, and I see now that it was actually J9s (not J9o). Also, it was a 3x raise from the cutoff, not UTG+1, and had a 33 BB stack ... hmmmm, bad detail recollection. It was actually the first hand that I played at the table. Why flat J9s from SB vs 33 BB stack size?

Just for fun here is the text version of that hand:


Game started at: 2014/1/26 15:35:26
Game ID: 247024125 0.05/0.10 Cadmium - 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Viekoda (10).
Seat 2: gloryAA (20.69).
Seat 3: PrayforSnow (10.69).
Seat 4: Maykell45 (3.30).
Seat 5: soboy (13.12).
Seat 6: genek45 (10).
Player genek45 has small blind (0.05)
Player Viekoda has big blind (0.10)
Player genek45 received a card.
Player genek45 received a card.
Player Viekoda received card: [2d]
Player Viekoda received card: [8c]
Player gloryAA received a card.
Player gloryAA received a card.
Player PrayforSnow received a card.
Player PrayforSnow received a card.
Player Maykell45 received a card.
Player Maykell45 received a card.
Player soboy received a card.
Player soboy received a card.
Player gloryAA folds
Player PrayforSnow folds
Player Maykell45 raises (0.30)
Player soboy folds
Player genek45 calls (0.25)
Player Viekoda folds
*** FLOP ***: [4c Js Jc]
Player genek45 checks
Player Maykell45 allin (3)
Player genek45 calls (3)
*** TURN ***: [4c Js Jc] [8h]
*** RIVER ***: [4c Js Jc 8h] [Qd]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 6.37. Rake 0.33
Board: [4c Js Jc 8h Qd]
Player Viekoda does not show cards.Bets: 0.10. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.10.
Player gloryAA does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player PrayforSnow does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Maykell45 shows: One pair of Js [Kc Ah]. Bets: 3.30. Collects: 0. Loses: 3.30.
Player soboy does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
*Player genek45 shows: Three Of Kind of Js [9d Jd]. Bets: 3.30. Collects: 6.37. Wins: 3.07.
Game ended at: 2014/1/26 15:36:11
 

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