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25NL - PP below TP on wet flop - Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:23 AM
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Flop line question here: Are we cbetting this flop for thin value against hands that would continue OTF? or is it better to x/c?

Range of hands that would continue on this flop are: JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, AsQs, AJ, KsQs, AT-T9, KJs, QJs, 98s, 87s.

There are 47% TP+ hands that we lose to and 53% that we beat; so betting for value is kind of thin - What's your reason for betting this flop if you do bet here?

And how would you play the hand moving forward if we check the flop OOP?

 
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Mon Feb 17, 2014, 10:28 AM
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Hi George,

I like betting this flop, as there are enough worse hands that can call us and we have fair equity vs. better hands as well, so while the value part may be thin, the penalty for being wrong is subsidized a bit having the outs we do. Plus there's no reason to assume they will bet automatically if we check, and I would think the vast majority of hands that will check behind us can make good use of a free card (hands like KQ/AQ with a single spade come to mind... small pairs too, it would have been a disaster if 33 got a free turn here).


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Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:11 PM
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Thanks Dave, my general game plan is to bet with hands that are vulnerable to overcards but I seem to be running into some dilemma when called and see a turn OOP. Only shows how much position is important. What do you think of the turn and river line in this particular spot? 3 of diamonds is a blank do we prefer betting for the same reasons as the flop ?
 
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Mon Feb 17, 2014, 09:09 PM
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Hi George,

I am generally going to bet the turn as well readless, as I still don't want to offer free cards and it makes the hand easier to play. On blank rivers I will tend to check/call since all draws missed and we will not likely get called by worse hands, but can pick off bluffs.

Obviously all this is easier to adjust in position, or with reads, yes OOP without reads makes life tough.


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