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10NL ZOOM - Weak2P facing turn DONKshove - Fri Mar 07, 2014, 02:55 PM
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Wondering what our calling range should be here vs a recreational player.

OTF: my decision was to call and proceed with caution.
OTT: villain DONKshoves... Stack off? or do we need better cards here?

Villain(17): 65/35/2.6

 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 04:11 PM
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looks like he haz 44's ... nothing else... or maybe AQ ....
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 04:54 PM
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looks like he haz 44's ... nothing else... or maybe AQ ....
I strongly disagree.
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 05:36 PM
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If he is aggressive, I think I stack off, if not, then I think I fold.

He shouldnt have AA or QQ because he just called pre-flop OOP. He could have AQ, Q9, A9 and shove that on the turn. Could also have 44 or 99. He might do this with flush/straight draws too but that would be quite horrible.

I think if he is an aggro monkey I can think about calling here.
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 05:53 PM
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He shouldnt have AA or QQ because he just called pre-flop OOP. He could have AQ, Q9, A9 and shove that on the turn. Could also have 44 or 99. He might do this with flush/straight draws too but that would be quite horrible.
Personally I think shoving here with any hand is quite horrible... LOL why would the villain shove 3 x the pot with AQ, Q9, A9, and sets...

Personally I'm calling this shove with any set, and AQ. A4 is really really close IMO.
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 09:42 PM
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Not folding.
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014, 10:24 PM
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Against someone with those stats, I think I prefer 3-betting the flop, expecting him to stack off any flush draw or Ax. You can call the flop check-raise if you expect him to barrel with flush draws, but I think I'd be quite happy to end the hand right there on the flop, as there aren't many good turn and river cards for you.
As played, call turn. His shove is more likely to be desperation move than a value-jam I think.


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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 06:04 AM
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Personally I think shoving here with any hand is quite horrible... LOL why would the villain shove 3 x the pot with AQ, Q9, A9, and sets...
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It is often horrible, of course, but if you think your opponent will call an overbet...why not?

That's read dependent of course.
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 07:28 PM
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Against someone with those stats, I think I prefer 3-betting the flop, expecting him to stack off any flush draw or Ax. You can call the flop check-raise if you expect him to barrel with flush draws, but I think I'd be quite happy to end the hand right there on the flop, as there aren't many good turn and river cards for you.
As played, call turn. His shove is more likely to be desperation move than a value-jam I think.
I agree with all of what Arty said entirely.

Against someone this maniacy and spewy, I think he'll be willing to GII OTF with all sorts of draws, worse two pair, even some Ax.

As played I share your caution, but against this villain type I'm calling the turn.
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 08:10 PM
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I did call. Villain had A9 of diamonds.
 

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