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quads , moar value? - Sat Mar 08, 2014, 03:17 AM
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could i get moar value from dis? was thinking that i could justcall turn and hope he jam river... but probably he could be giving up OTR... cuz he overbets.... idk....
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 04:56 AM
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nh!
With his bet ott he pretty much made himself potcommited, yet he folds to your shove so I think he was just bluffing.
a call would perhaps be a good play seeing your hand is the prob the absolute nuts. he might hit something otr (flush?, boat?) and shove it but i think he was just making a bad bluff.

if you wait till the river to shove, he has an easy desision. eighter he has had or not. ott he might gamble, so more value for you, so well played imo!
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 06:18 AM
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nh!
With his bet ott he pretty much made himself potcommited, yet he folds to your shove so I think he was just bluffing.
a call would perhaps be a good play seeing your hand is the prob the absolute nuts. he might hit something otr (flush?, boat?) and shove it but i think he was just making a bad bluff.

if you wait till the river to shove, he has an easy desision. eighter he has had or not. ott he might gamble, so more value for you, so well played imo!
i was thinging exactly same things
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 02:59 PM
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hmmm, I must be totally wrong than.. hahaha just kidding
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2014, 07:54 PM
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Like Ray, I'm surprised that he folded to your shove after making the overbet, so I think shoving the turn and hoping he calls with a flush draw is reasonable. You could also call turn and lead-shove the river, but if none of the draws come in, you might not get called too often.

I would have probably led the turn though rather than check/shove. It's tough to say what's best because whatever you do looks superstrong, but I think if you lead the turn, you might be able to level your opponent into thinking you're on a draw and he might be able to get you to fold with a shove. Whereas with the line you took, if he bet a normal size and you check/raised for a second time, it's very hard for him to call with anything other than a boat.
 
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Sun Mar 09, 2014, 02:21 AM
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Like Ray, I'm surprised that he folded to your shove after making the overbet, so I think shoving the turn and hoping he calls with a flush draw is reasonable. You could also call turn and lead-shove the river, but if none of the draws come in, you might not get called too often.

I would have probably led the turn though rather than check/shove. It's tough to say what's best because whatever you do looks superstrong, but I think if you lead the turn, you might be able to level your opponent into thinking you're on a draw and he might be able to get you to fold with a shove. Whereas with the line you took, if he bet a normal size and you check/raised for a second time, it's very hard for him to call with anything other than a boat.
what i thought was that i can check OTT to let him bluff.... but if i will call overbet it looks so unlikely that i will fold river to jam, so it looks to me that i can jam it now cuz river will only jam or call 88 but with 88 he will call my turn jam too... so maybe he had some 77 or AJ trying to fold some AK?! though i just flatted, but many 2NL players also flat AK
 

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