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10NL ZOOM, A6o value raise OTR - Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:09 AM
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What size would you value raise to OTR? I'm not worried about the flush but I don't like the 9 or the T, and if I raise the river he shouldn't be to happy if he holds 33,77,88,JJ.

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Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:42 AM
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I'd fold pre personally unless there's a fish in the BB or the BTN is an absolute nit.

As played our sizing is way too small this deep. I'd be betting closer to $0.40.

I'm also not sure if we should be 3betting the flop here. I actually think I would vs an unknown this deep. Plenty worse can call and unless he has specifically pocket 3s we are in decent shape.

The river seems too thin in my opinion vs anybody half decent given the straight and flush came on board. Might be ok at 10nl though. I can't really comment on population frequencies.

On better rivers i'd consider raise/folding for value vs better players.

Some guys like raising backdoor flush and straight draws on these kind of flops so it's not entirely out of his range.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:56 AM
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Hi dirt,

I too don't think raising the river is great, this run out is pretty bad for many of the worse hands in his range we'd be targeting, so the ratio of worse hands that will call a raise to better hands seems too thin. In fact, I would expect most worse hands to check/fold or check/call, not bet again on the river. This includes the hands you think he won't be happy with, 77/88/JJ (don't know why you include 33 there, he's happy with a boat). In particular 77/88 I can't see betting this river, much less bet/calling.


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