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AK limped behind - raise and call - my next move - call - raise - all-in - Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:47 PM
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deepstacked with 51 BBs in UTG+2 and UTG+1 limps - I limp behind

then there is another call from the button and a raise to 28K which is seven BBs from the small blind and UTG+1 calls - should I call, raise - and if I raise should I just ship it all





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Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:09 PM
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what is this hand from? they hand number was removed and what type of tourney it comes from determines the action needed. Please always provide this.

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Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:17 PM
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what is this hand from? they hand number was removed and what type of tourney it comes from determines the action needed. Please always provide this.

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Hi John

It is from a large field freeroll tourney. I removed the hand number so people couldn't request the hand history. Wanted an appraisal of what was the best play irrespective of buy-in with the aim of winning this tournament, given the respective stack-sizes and actions at this table up to this point in the hand.

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Ed,

The buy-in is irrelevant.... IF.. it's not a satellite nor league game.

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Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:57 PM
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Ed,

The buy-in is irrelevant.... IF.. it's not a satellite nor league game.

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Agreed John -

But often I want the fact that it might be a league game ignored as I don't necessarily play the league games for points anymore but as an individual tournament that I want to win outright - as practice for how I would play in the given situation if I was in a $1.10 MTT or the Sunday Million.

So IF this was the Sunday Million - down to 150 players - what would be the best play - given I want to win it?



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Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:02 AM
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Hi Ed!

As long as this is NOT a league game, here's the way I'd go about it.

With AKo, I get a limp in front of me. I'm going to make a standard raise and size it between 12k (3X previous bet) and 18k (pot-sized raise). I'll go for the middle of the range and choose to raise to 15k.

As played (I'm not flatting with AK here in a standard tourney), when the opp raises to 28k and there is another caller in front of me and one opp left to act behind, I'm just going to call. Calling, then raising as a squeeze will most likely get called by at least one of the opps as my AK is very under-repped. A squeeze will look like a steal with a marginal hand (a real hand would raise initially), so I'd expect to get called by at least one, if not multiple opps. With an unmade hand, I don't want to be playing for all my chips unnecessarily in what could easily be a multi-way pot.

Situations like this are why I don't want to limp behind players with better hands, as it really puts me into some bad situations. If I had raised and then got 3-bet, I then have options, as I can either call or 4-bet and if I do call, then I have options postflop, as I could have two high cards or a pair and can rep a wider range of hands.

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If this is a league game, I'm also making a standard raise and it's an easy call to see a flop. I cannot be all-in without a made hand in a league game.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Hi Ed, my decision will be based on how player 3 has been playing and also to a lesser extent the other villains in the pot.

I don't mind the limp if you want to play AK as a disguised hand, especially in a thinking game like the Sunday Million but if this is simply a freeroll that anyone can enter then I'm playing it ABC.

I'm folding as played, we don't have a made hand and the limp has got us into trouble already. If we raised to around 14k we would have had an easier decision to make as the button may have folded or shoved and villain 3 then would have called or reshoved. Playing it this way is far easier for us to make decisions and won't cost us many more chips.


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