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am i too nitty here OTR? 2nl straight OTR - Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:38 AM
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:47 AM
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I think you made a fine fold here !
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:57 AM
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easy fold pre-flop, never limp because too many ppl that see the flop.
I would call.
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:41 AM
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I might bet the turn trying to represent T. As played river fold is good.
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:13 AM
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I think I would have called river and not raised, If I did raise I would have called I tend to pay off too much though.

I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:23 AM
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easy fold pre-flop, never limp because too many ppl that see the flop.
I would call.
I tend to disagree with you on this one, I think this is a good spot to see a flop in pos. with a connected hand on the cheap.
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:25 AM
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Raise or fold pre.

Rest is okay to the river. On the river, I wouldn't raise for thin value, it's a four to a straight board, more than possible that we are splitting, losing To J9 or a full house, so dont see the need to reopen the action.
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:17 AM
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Preflop play is debatable, not a huge mistake either way imo.

The river play is the key here... the fold is not too nitty, in fact it's not even remotely nitty, it's an easy fold imo. I don't expect to see any worse hand bet/3b jam the river here. But more importantly, the raise I believe is a significant mistake. When the villain makes a large sizing into us like this, our hand is more of a crying call. The board is paired with a 4 liner to a straight, and he likes his hand enough to pot it? Our non-nut straight could well be at the bottom of his value range. If he has just trip tens, and was going to check-raise the turn, this is a river card that may slow him down. But his sizing seems to indicate he doesn't mind this otherwise scary board. And since it's a limped pot pre, he can have tons of 9x combos, all the J9 combos, and all the FH combos save for maybe T6/T7o. There's some small % of the time he's bluffing busted diamonds, which helps our equity on the crying call, but he won't pay off a raise with those so the don't help us there.

Keep in mind, we also have all the nutt'd combos in a limped pot, so his lack of fear in potting the river into us on this board should be immediately disconcerting imo.


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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FireMedic815 View Post
I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.
No, we are 100% for full discussion! The more, the merrier.


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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:42 AM
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I think I would have called river and not raised, If I did raise I would have called I tend to pay off too much though.

I also have a question for the hand analyzers. Do you mind that we comment here, or would you rather we keep our thoughts to ourselves and let you analyze the hands?

I have only ever done it to kind of help myself improve with reading hands and to see how I do vs your analysis, but if you would rather I didn't post anything here I will surely respect that.

I'm pretty sure it's the point of this forum that as much people as possible discuss/comment on a hand, not only the "official" analysers. I even think they sometimes wait to analyse an interesting hand just to see what everybody thinks about it.

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:57 AM
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:46 AM
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No, we are 100% for full discussion! The more, the merrier.
Awesome, I will try to participate more often.
 
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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:50 AM
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Three cheers for GL!!! \o/ (<- that's supposed to be a cheer )


Not sure why it took me *so* long to stop making calls when it was obvious my hand was no good, just so I could see what the villain had to confirm that my instincts were right Glad to see you're not making the same mistakes that I did GL


If the best you could do was tie the villain, then with a call you'd be putting in $1.93 just to win $0.56 (minus rake) at best. At worst, you'd have wound up with a $1 stack, instead of still having the full $3 like you did. Smart, not nitty!!


GL, GL!! \o/

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Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:32 AM
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Three cheers for GL!!! \o/ (<- that's supposed to be a cheer )


Not sure why it took me *so* long to stop making calls when it was obvious my hand was no good, just so I could see what the villain had to confirm that my instincts were right Glad to see you're not making the same mistakes that I did GL


If the best you could do was tie the villain, then with a call you'd be putting in $1.93 just to win $0.56 (minus rake) at best. At worst, you'd have wound up with a $1 stack, instead of still having the full $3 like you did. Smart, not nitty!!


GL, GL!! \o/
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Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:40 AM
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lol!!
 

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