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NL10 ZOOM Set vs very bas river card

NL10 ZOOM Set vs very bas river card - Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:44 AM
A Beatmaker's Avatar
Since: Mar 2013
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Vilain unknown. I believe he might have JJ-99,AQs,QJs,AQo. And i should cheked on this teriblle the river.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:45 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,274
Note: Pocket 3s are a bit too low for me preflop to call a 3-bet. I would try to stick to 55+.

As played we need to check back this river. Diamonds come in... Tx is a straight. I guess this villain called you with QJ or something. This bet OTR is too thin IMO.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:07 PM
geoVARTA's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,306
Hi Beatmaker, I agree with dirteh. I would fold preflop; 33 are too weak to compete post flop and we don't have good odds (both pot odds and implied odds) to set-mine profitably. If we think of hands that 3bet preflop and x/c flop then I think we could be looking at weak TP (Kxs), MP+backdoor draw (QT, AQ, QJ, ATs), maybe JJ/TT so it's also hard for our opponent to call with one pair maybe even two pair
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:10 PM
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Hi A-B,

The tough part about bad river cards is two-fold... not only that the beat us sometimes, but also that the are scary to the villain when the don't beat us. I feel like if a villain's range is weak, they're more likely to fold or bluff a scare card, and if it's stronger, they will call us.

Here I think his range is fairly weak. There just aren't many strong hands that 3b us preflop out of position, then check/call flop and turn on a wet board. AQ seems like the primary candidate hand to fit all actions. Since you are not playing with any reads it's hard to assign stronger or weaker hands.

I feel like we're usually still good here, but villain may not pay us off as often when the flopped flush draw gets there as well as a 4 liner to a straight. I don't mind giving him a chance to hero us since I think we're usually ahead, but it's very thin imo, and I wish we sized our turn bet larger since the board is so dynamic and the J improves him to pair+draw hands quite frequently... more like $3.50 on the turn, then the pot is $11.32 and he's got $4.69 left, so more tempted to make the hero call in a huge pot.

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