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How does this happen? - Thu Apr 17, 2014, 04:12 PM
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I would have bet my house on this! lol
Would you have done the same or should I have reserved the all in?
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014, 04:23 PM
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a 3-bet pre pot-commits me, so I'm shoving pre.. and their hand is not strong enough to call a shove with preflop.

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Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:04 PM
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a 3-bet pre pot-commits me, so I'm shoving pre.. and their hand is not strong enough to call a shove with preflop.

John (JWK24)
Just ignoring the fact that it needed to go all-in preflop, Quads vs Straight Flush is a bad beat.
Fairly sure this would have won you a bad-beat jackpot at some casinos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=batKeDPV5Aw
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014, 05:17 PM
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this is the worst beat i've had, honestly. I thought I'd play slow because I knew I had the nuts... well, turns out NOT.
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:00 PM
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this is the worst beat i've had, honestly. I thought I'd play slow because I knew I had the nuts... well, turns out NOT.
I get it.. its painful.

Slowplaying the nuts is a good strategy, it can be over-done though. I personally hate having Quads, especially on the flop. It gives your opponent a lot of fear that a possible set is there and just like a 3-flush flop, you get no action. If you slow play here, you are really forced to check-check to the river and then bet the river hoping for a token call.

So sometimes, I bet the quads, sometimes I don't but very rarely in either regard do i get paid off.

Personally, Quads is the worse hand to have --- you are guaranteed to win (except for your SF of course) but you are mostly not going to get paid.
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:23 PM
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The guy had TWO outs going to the river. It could have been a worse bad beat.

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Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:07 AM
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a 3-bet pre pot-commits me, so I'm shoving pre.. and their hand is not strong enough to call a shove with preflop.

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i agree that i wouldnt call a preflop shove with kq but that doesnt change the point if he was willing to call a decent size raise that i dont believe he wouldve folded.Trying not to be rude you seem to do this a lot your reply is like a recorded message.Maybe im missing something but i believe the main point of the post was him showing how terribly unlucky he was, and come on he was what odds of them hitting that and beating him on that flop the sites own odds calc gives him 99.81 to the opp 0.19 even with the turn card the opps odds only grow to 4%, So to say this is anything other than a bad beat would be just stupid

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Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:13 AM
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Because making the right decisions entitles you, to some extent, to feel hard done by when you get beat. (Not that most people can be bothered listening to tedious bad beat stories when they happen to us all).
 
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Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:22 AM
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Because making the right decisions entitles you, to some extent, to feel hard done by when you get beat. (Not that most people can be bothered listening to tedious bad beat stories when they happen to us all).
well clearly the forum wants them or why have a bad beats section ?. Also if your not interested why read them or even waste your time replying ?
 
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Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:05 AM
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well clearly the forum wants them or why have a bad beats section ?. Also if your not interested why read them or even waste your time replying ?
I'm providing a free educational service, advising people to get over it, because we all get bad beat and one outered.

The forum having a bad beat section is like a prison having a secure unit for particularly bad behaved inmates. You might not want them but you figure if you have to deal with them just keep them out of other people's way.
 
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. - Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:34 AM
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I just like to share some hands for a laugh. I'm not really complaining as I am aware it is sometimes how the game plays out.
Sometimes I think the so called 'monster hands' are actually not as good as some make them out to be. You raise, re raise and possibly a shove as standard play but lately i've been thinking that a limp, especially UTG positions is somtimes a better way to play it with loose players all around your table because they do tend to call anything with a K Q or A in their pocket.
Yesterday I lost two AA hands. Both times I raised only to get re raised so then I shoved. Once we were all in, I find that one person had 72(?) and on the other hand it was an A9 and neither were suited.
The 72 pops up so I lose. The 99 show up so I lose. I didn't mind but I think it would be better with loose players to limp or just call their raise, wait for the flop to make sure you hit, and then continue betting. What do you guys think?
 
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Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:37 PM
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if its a dry flop JJ 27 rainbow its hard to get chips in, you want a wet flop which you got, turn was even better for flush draws straights getting there, just really unlucky on river.
and i understand your opening post you wern't complaining, (bad beat)just showing that the flopped dogs cahoonas doesnt always win .
and JWK24 post depends if you want to possibly take it down there and then or draw them in, if turn is a total brick he might not call any more bets just on river.
 

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