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10NL RUSH, JJ facing a flop SHOVE for 12x the pot - Tue Apr 22, 2014, 03:53 PM
dirt eh's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,274
I have JJ in MP, sometimes I 3-bet this, sometimes I don't.
Flop comes 688 rainbow and the initial raiser jams for 11.55x the pot! What should be calling with here? QQ+?

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($14.25)
BB ($10.83)
UTG ($14.21) VPIP: 50, PFR: 22, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 18
Hero (MP) ($14.91)
CO ($6.67)
Button ($13.39) VPIP: 27, PFR: 21, 3B: 7, AF: 5.0, Hands: 131

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J
UTG raises $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold, Button calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) 6, 8, 8 (3 players)
UTG bets $13.86 (All-In)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:15 PM
Paddy Gar's Avatar
Since: Apr 2010
Posts: 439
had a similar spot vs an unknown before at 5nl multiway. i had 1010 and folded, but i thought it was incorrect at the time. Forum members said the same. The guy was a rec player however which is important obviously.

a few days ago I had jj on a draw heavy board with 3 undercards, and a reg did the same move. I folded and another player called w/nut flush draw, the reg had KK.

All the help I can give It's such a weird line with nothing to protect against really.

How is rush treating ya man?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:15 PM
dirt eh's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,274
Originally Posted by Paddy Gar View Post
How is rush treating ya man?
It's awful... I'm running HORRIBLE! This always seems to happen when sites have Bank Builder Promotions.

19,516 hands played
All-in EV: 659.02bb
Net Won: 25.06bb

All-in preflop:
64 times
All-in EV 168.96bb
Net Won -400.68bb

All-in OTF:
34 times
All-in EV 354.30bb
Net Won -158.60bb
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 11:03 AM
TheLangolier's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,479
(Head Trainer)
Hi dirt,

I would snap JJ here vs a 50/22. I mean it's only 18 hands, but he's played half of them which is bad. He's raised preflop 4 of them and never taken an aggressive action post flop yet, so he might well be feeling frustrated at this point. Sometimes we are paying off QQ+ but I fully expect to see a wide array of underpairs, AK, other ace high, and some nonsense card that flopped a straight draw or gutter.

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