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NL10 6m zoom nut flush draw in 3 bet pot oop - Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:24 PM
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edit: sry no reads at all not played much 6max zoom at all.

preflop: ok i made a mistake didnt realise vilain only had a few big blinds and went for a 3 bet with A5s, got a bit confued with bet sizing after vilain goes all in for extra few BB's

flop: i bet a bit small, 40% bet, i didnt think tbh anything BB called my 3 bet would be folding on that flop, so do u think maybe c/c is better with a pair and nut flush draw?

turn: hit the nut flush again c/c call better or keep betting? iv not got much left for a river bet if BB calls?
 
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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:35 AM
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I would bet bigger OTF, just a standaard c-bet of 60%-75%. You flop great and you are the preflop aggressor. No need to lower your betsize imo.
I don't think he will fold that easy and the flop doesn't seem to hit most ranges very hard.

OTT I would bet as well and if called, shove the rest OTR.
 
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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:59 AM
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in all the hands i played online poker, i hardly ever come across the BB that cold calls a 3 bet,
i think this is what confuses me.

im usually betting 55% in 3 bet pots, if i bet 75% im gonna be short of bet sizing for turn and river.

if u put villain on big pocket pair like QQ are u still betting flop or c/c ? (im OOP remember!)

villain can re-raise big pocket pairs here easily?

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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:21 AM
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Hi taxed,

I like betting bigger on the flop too, villain's range is uncertain but it seems like a lot of AQ/AJs and 88-JJ type hands. Maybe QQ and AK. I would expect KK/AA to 4-bet preflop more often. I think there's a lot of benefit to continuing to put pressure on big aces, 88, TT, JJ when we have good hand equity to back it up.

The turn card I wouldn't be opposed to checking... it's normally a pretty bad event for our range that we got called on the flop and this coordinating 3-flush card hits. It looks a lot like we may have AK and are giving up if we check, so he may move in with his pairs now (and we only have a fraction of the pot left). He may still call the turn if we move in, but it looks pretty strong imo where as checking leaves some doubt.


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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:08 PM
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ok thanks, dave.

im just trying different lines, with c/c. I feel like im double barreling too much, so trying to balance it a bit with betting strong and semi made hands and air on flop and checking back medium strength hands.....maybe i shouldnt check back at all
 
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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:20 PM
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ok thanks, dave.

im just trying different lines, with c/c. I feel like im double barreling too much, so trying to balance it a bit with betting strong and semi made hands and air on flop and checking back medium strength hands.....maybe i shouldnt check back at all
You can't check it back out of position, you have to check first.

Try thinking about what your range is, and whether or not the turn (or river) card is good or bad for that range as a whole. When the card is bad for your range, you should be checking it more frequently than normal (even sometimes when it happens to give your actual hand the nuts).


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Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:26 PM
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yeah i ment checking sry, i dint realise checking it back and checking were 2 different things..my bad
 

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