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25NL ZOOM, 87s in CO river decision - Fri May 16, 2014, 09:41 PM
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So this one's fun... no idea what to do here. So when we don't know I guess we fold?

MP: 20/16/10.0 - 26 hands

 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 05:35 AM
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I'm not folding here, but #ihatefolding!
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 10:48 AM
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Yh but why overbet shove as a bluff here?
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 10:50 AM
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What does everyone think of how dirt played the flop? I know players like raise jamming here like they have thew nuts but i prefer the flat myself.

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Sat May 17, 2014, 11:20 AM
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Not a giant fan of preflop. I think this is a good hand to 3b with since it's just outside of our flatting range given btn can squeeze super wide and we'll have to fold.

Flop and turn are good.

River...

Probably a fold given we block straights he could jam for value.
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 11:24 AM
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Personally, I'm folding on the turn bet
My pair of 7's ain't strong vs his hand and I'm not the fishing type nor the spewing type...lol
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 11:33 AM
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We aren't calling because of a pair of 7s.

We are calling because the combination of our equity with a FD, open ender AND a pair of 7s is enough to continue vs his range.
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 12:17 PM
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and what's his range?
Are you 100% sure of his range?
What are the notes on that player? (not HUD numbers)
Unless you know exactly what he's holding, than all you're doing is fishing and if you win, great, if not that's spewing to me

Depending on the notes I have and if my stack was bigger, than yes I would call the turn bet and even the river.

I guess to each their own, personally, I like to win and make money.
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdayy View Post
Not a giant fan of preflop. I think this is a good hand to 3b with since it's just outside of our flatting range given btn can squeeze super wide and we'll have to fold.

Flop and turn are good.

River...

Probably a fold given we block straights he could jam for value.
Yh i didnt like the flat pre esecially without any reads post flop, is that standar at 25nl+ then for players to value jam straights here? \


As played it looks like we are either pretty weak or have just hit a flush on the river.
 
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Sat May 17, 2014, 11:35 PM
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Hey dirt,

I slightly prefer a 3b to a flat preflop as well if we're going to get involved in the hand. Flop and turn calls are good.

Until we get some indication what the big overbet means for this player I think it's just a fold. Considering we can have all the club draws here ourselves, which he doesn't seem to care, and that the big overbet shove on the river is quite often a value play with a nut-ted hand hoping to look bluffy, it's fine to just let this go.


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