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NL25 - Thu May 22, 2014, 09:40 PM
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Do we believe him or not? In that moment i decided to call but not when i look at reply i think i should fold the turn bet. What do you think?


UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: $25.88 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 15.25, PFR: 12.71, 3Bet Preflop: 6.12, Hands: 120)
MP+1: $24.65 (VPIP: 13.99, PFR: 11.19, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 145)
CO: $41.49 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: $29.85 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (SB): $24.75
BB: $20.80 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9:diamond: A:club:

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75, 2 players) 5:heart: J:heart: A:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($10.75, 2 players) 4:club:
Hero checks, CO bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00

River: ($22.75, 2 players) 6:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets $14.00, Hero calls $13.50 and is all-in
 
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Fri May 23, 2014, 01:26 AM
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I would probably call the turn bet and fold river.
 
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Fri May 23, 2014, 03:18 AM
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I don't like pre. This hand plays horribly post flop OOP vs a calling range. I'd rather 3b 57s or A3s.

As played I think we have to call down once we checked flop.

I think it's really close OTR. I think calling turn to fold this river would be a mistake.
 
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Fri May 23, 2014, 04:12 PM
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Hi rudar,

I think given the line we took, calling down is fine. When we cede the lead on the flop after 3-betting pre, we will tend to look a lot like KK/QQ, which opens the door for him to both value bet A-rags, or bluff trying to move us off those non-ace pairs.

The thing here is the sizing... these sizings don't seem to be targeting KK for calls as they're pretty large across the board, so it does make me suspicious.

Ofc having no read hurts us, we are more likely to make a mistake either way.


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Fri May 23, 2014, 09:11 PM
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Tnx Dave,

So in your opinion it is fine to 3bet pre or? In my opinion if I don't 3bet in this spots I am to exploitable
what do you think?
 
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Sat May 24, 2014, 05:33 PM
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It's such a case specific hand for me, and we don't have any read yet with only 10 hands. I might 3b, flat, or even fold depending on the villain. Just some examples:

Aggressive CO stealer with a high F3B- I prefer to call, keeps all his dominated hands and garbage steals in.

Aggressive CO stealer with a low F3B- I prefer to 3B, which is for value since he will take flops with lots of worse garbage. In this case A9 plays well vs. his calling range. Fold if 4b.

Normal guy who doesn't steal aggressively from CO- This one is tricky, if we 3B and get called A9 plays poorly OOP vs. this range like birdayy said. If we flat however it still doesn't play well OOP without initiative. Flat keeps the pot smaller and his range as wide as possible, which is probably best. If we are on the fence, I'd rather 3b it suited since we have some nut potential in a big pot then.

Tight/conservative nit who doesn't steal- Just fold and move on.


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Sat May 24, 2014, 10:43 PM
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Clear as a day!
TNX all
 

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