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50NL Full ring turn problem - Sun Jun 01, 2014, 08:58 AM
rudar47's Avatar
Since: Sep 2011
Posts: 73
PokerStars - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
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Is this a spot where we fold Aces?

UTG+1: $81.04 (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 8.93, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 56)
UTG+2: $50.00 (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP: $66.94 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
MP+1: $61.25 (VPIP: 16.43, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 142)
CO: $24.25 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: $60.65
SB: $50.00 (VPIP: 12.84, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 148)
Hero (BB): $58.72
UTG: $23.28 (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A:club: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, MP+1 raises to $12.50, fold, Hero calls $7.50

Flop: ($26.75, 2 players) 8:spade: K:club: 2:heart:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets $8.00, Hero calls $8.00

Turn: ($42.75, 2 players) Q:diamond:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets $40.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $38.22 and is all-in

River: ($119.19, 2 players) 5:spade:
Sun Jun 01, 2014, 09:09 AM
grind4f00d's Avatar
Since: May 2014
Posts: 29
warning: i play at lower stakes and 6max

i'd just GII PF

as played i'd raise his bet OTF and GII OTT

seems like he binked a set of Q IMO, small bet OTF to see where he stands, sometimes KQ but i must admit his line is damn weird, calling is not that bad i guess
Sun Jun 01, 2014, 09:24 AM
rudar47's Avatar
Since: Sep 2011
Posts: 73
I am not worried about KQ never here, my concern here is KK,QQ. not sure if AK would play like this. In any case not an easy call
Sun Jun 01, 2014, 03:55 PM
mike2198's Avatar
Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,485
Looks like a snap fold to me.
Sun Jun 01, 2014, 05:04 PM
GamblingProp's Avatar
Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 714
It's quite a weird hand since the only hand we beat is probably AK and obv bluffs.
The bad thing is we block a lot of AK combos.
Are they double barreling their stack off with a bluff?
I believe not but if you think they do more than 33% of the times, you should call.
Sun Jun 01, 2014, 07:47 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,514
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Hi rudar,

It's a toss up between AK and KK/QQ, and since it's 50/50 each way and we are getting more than 2-1 to call, calling is fine.

This whole thing could have been avoided of course with different actions earlier in the hand. Like 5b to $22 and call a shove, or get it in directly on the flop.

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Sun Jun 01, 2014, 10:24 PM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
Pre is too small. Make it $6-$6.50. I'd prefer getting it in pre, but once you take this line preflop you can't fold postflop on this board.

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