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not sure about call or fold on the flop - Mon Jun 09, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Mon Jun 09, 2014, 12:17 PM
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Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:07 AM
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Imo this is a hand there is no correct answer, so better not to think it too much. You have a hand that beats top pair& over pairs and flop is drawy and you are at least against 2 fish, and the level is NL2 -> imo, you can call

If we give all villains v3/v5 and v4 a range: {QQ-77,44,Ac8c+,KcTc+} and v4: {QQ-JJ,99,AcKc}

You are getting 30% to win, with 29% pot odds, also because you have a side pot with v4 who might not be a fish and thus only hand he should have that beats you is 99, I think you can make profit by calling. But the ranges can be really anything, so a guessing game.

~EV= 0.3*3.61-0.7*0.75+0.74*0.75-0.26*0.75 = 0.56+0.36 = 0.92

If we give all 3 villains ultra-tight ranges : {sets,QQ,JJ,AcKc}

Its still even money =) 0.15*3.61-0.85*0.75+0.56*0.75-0.44*0.75=-0.096+0.09=-0.006

imo, if you have a good made hand at the NL2 you can almost always call shoves - but this might not be correct even though EV+ on average

ps. these are not facts but noob opinions, so plz challenge my opinion

Last edited by braveslice; Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 01:16 PM..

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