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2 pairs on dry flop, on a 1.10 mtt ft - Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:15 PM
scarface763's Avatar
Since: Oct 2013
Posts: 107
Villian was very passive, a 34vpip/7pfr and 28lm , Im in doubt if i can do something diferent in this spots? what to do with 2 pairs in this spot? (should icm slow me down?) .
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:28 PM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,802
Hi scarface763!

Since I'm the lowest stack left, ICM really won't play into my decision here, as I can't go any lower than I currently am and I'm definitely not shoving this hand preflop.

With Q5, I'm more than happy to see a free flop when the opps limp.

When I flop two pair, here is where I need to make my play (especially against a passive opponent). I need to make a standard lead value bet and with 3 opps, a standard bet is 3/4 pot (78k)... BUT... if I can pick up the pot right here, I'm gaining over 32% to my current stack. With this being the case, I'm open-shoving the flop.
I don't want to check and have a passive player check behind and get a free card that can beat me (what they'll do without a monster and even with some monsters).

Unfortunately, the opp flops a set, but the best play that I can make is to put them in, immediately on the flop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:55 AM
scarface763's Avatar
Since: Oct 2013
Posts: 107
thnks john i agree with you, i only checked because i was thnikingon a check-raise or a check-shove, but youre right the optimal play here is the shove thnks
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:18 AM
Quaquaversal's Avatar
Since: Dec 2013
Posts: 57
Checking or betting flop depends more on the button than it does on the loose passive.. It's a really dry flop so if I was button and it checked to me I'd definitely take a stab knowing there's a good chance I just take it down or turn a good card to barrel, so if button is the stabby type you should definitely check this so you get some value you otherwise wouldn't by someone betting with air

I think checking in general is the better play though, there's really not that much to protect against.

I prefer shoving or calling over making it 102k though, with your stack that raise just looks so much stronger than just shoving
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:42 PM
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Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,453
I agree with coach John I will lead out the flop here

just a cooler unlucky

get them next time

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