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Flopped the nuts and folded on the Turn - 10NL ZOOM Fullring - Wed Jul 09, 2014, 05:39 PM
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Villain 9(64) - 13/8 - af0.5 - 3bet 0%
Villain 1(56) - 34/27 - af3 - 3bet 5%

Not too much of a sample but gives a general guide.

I think my fold is good but unsure on my line/bet size.


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Wed Jul 09, 2014, 06:05 PM
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IMO, I think your flop bet is way to small. Yes we flopped the nuts but this is a board that's going to have a TON of action. I would bet close to pot... 75% minimum. I'm also looking to get the money in OTF tbh. We could be free rolling vs. others that have AQ. We're ahead of sets and all 2 pair type hands. There's so much that will give us action it's gross.

As played I think folding the turn is fine but it would be gross to see AQ and KQ in our opponents hands.
 
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Wed Jul 09, 2014, 09:36 PM
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Hi Jez,

I agree, given the large % of time we are drawing to 1 out on the river, that folding the turn is prudent. That being said, there's no good reason not to get a lot more of the money in on the flop, up to and including all in if they want to. We have the nuts with a redraw, and 2 opponents showing a willingness to give action. On such a wet, action board I'd c-bet about .85c-1.00, and facing the raise that we did, reraise to about 4-4.25. If called (and not shoved on), I'd be open shoving the turn.


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Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:56 PM
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I guess I got a bit slow play happy with only c betting 50% and calling the raise on the flop.

But my hand is kinda face up if I reopen the action and I wanted to keep both players in to stack them both. Maybe I am approaching these spots with the wrong thought process.


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Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:25 PM
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Definitely do not agree that your hand is face up if you bet/3b the flop. There are a lot of decent but non-nut hands, and some draws, a player might do this with.

Your best chance to stack them is to get more money in right now while they both clearly feel they have good hands, as a number of turn cards could change that assessment on their parts.


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