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Pocket 7's - Did I Play the Turn Right? - 50NL Cash Games - Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:00 PM
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I feel like I played the turn poorly here. Maybe I played the whole hand bad? Maybe X/Calling a shove OTT is best?

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Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
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Hi dirt,

I think you played the hand fine preflop and on the flop. Turn just move him all in imo... he's only got a pot sized bet left, and is clearly interested in continuing the hand since he called the large check-raise otf.

X/c turn is super bad imo, so many holdings would benefit from a free card, don't trust him to not be smart enough to take it when offered.


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Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:51 PM
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Wouldn't it be a pointless play for him to ship an over pair though?

Unless your raising flop with over pairs that can have a club or his 3bet range is so wide that your bluffing the flop a ton and he can then flat flop jam turn with backdoor clubs?

Just a thought that popped into my head when i saw the hand.
 
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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:38 AM
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Why this is good pre flop? Because we are deep? Is this play in full ring bad when we are 100bb?
 
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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 02:27 AM
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Made me have a ponder on the pre call to set mine 77. Rounded it up to call $4 we are happy with two stacks and just looking at the short stack $4 x 10 = $40, $4 x 20 = $80, so OK sorted 20-1 implied odds.

I'm still not happy with on average over cards being dealt on the flop, then doing back flips / fist pumps when we hit our set.

Great to x/r, but in my head the bet is going to be big. But how big? Maybe $28 to charge what range? The stats look aggressive to me - do they fold over pairs or nut draws? Nice hand sir 88.

My guts are with getting it in on the flop - but probably missed value. The half pot turn bet is just asking for trouble when a club hits. But hey they don't have it all of the time.
 
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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:39 PM
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Why this is good pre flop? Because we are deep? Is this play in full ring bad when we are 100bb?
Yes. 22-1 implied odds (20 from his stack and 2 that are in the pot already) means he has enough chips. Hyper-aggressive stats means we have a realistic expectation of realizing a bunch of those implied odds when we do flop a set.

On 100bb it may not be quite enough, we'd be getting more like 12-1 vs. an over aggro guy it's close. He may size his 3b differently too though, so it would depend.

The ability to realize the implied odds are key, not just having them. Vs. a nitty player for example, even 22-1 would be marginal (or 50-1 for that matter) because he wouldn't give it up often enough.


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