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Not fair.. - Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:23 PM
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Just because i was shortstake.
 
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Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:23 AM
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Another bad beat at final table..

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Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:57 AM
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to determine whether something is a bad beat or not, the entire betting sequence needs to be known along with what everyone's stacks and blinds are at the beginning of the hand.

they may be bad beats, may be coolers or may be played incorrectly.. without this information, you can't tell whether one is or not.

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Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:59 PM
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All in pre flop both.
 
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Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:35 PM
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All in pre flop both.
how did you get all-in pre? did you shove? did they? was there more than 1 bet? also, what was everyone's stack size before the betting?


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Tue Aug 05, 2014, 05:51 PM
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http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/rep...sh=56417E18A8#

Ouch lol,
Iam hero1 2 full houses beat by quad 8s.
 
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Tue Aug 05, 2014, 07:46 PM
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Ouch lol,
Iam hero1 2 full houses beat by quad 8s.
While it's unfortunate, this is definitely not a bad beat as the player with the 8 was ahead when the chips went in. However, there are a number of problems with the way that the hand is bet, that need to be corrected.

Preflop, when first into a pot, I need to either make a standard raise or to fold. I do not want to open-limp, as this is a very weak play that is easily exploitable by an observant player.

On the flop, the bet sizing is also very incorrect. Bets postflop need to be sized based on the size of the pot, number of opps and the board texture. With 4 opps in the pot, if I want to bet, I cannot bet less than a pot-sized bet or I can be giving the opps the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I give them the correct odds, they will win chips off of me on average each and every time this type of situation occurs.
However, the pot-sized bet also causes another problem as it makes me put over 1/3 of my remaining chips into the pot, meaning that I'm pot-committed.. and cannot fold. Due to this, if I want to bet the flop, I need to shove.

Yes, the opp with 89 was lucky, but they got their chips in good and made positive plays at each step in the hand.. so they deserved to win the pot.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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