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25NL: Shoving v 4bet with AKo - Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:33 PM
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Limited reads on opponent as only a few hands.

Is it reasonable to get it all in versus a 4bet from EP with AKo or is it best to let it go in a vacuum at these stakes as your often up against AA,KK,QQ?
 
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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:21 PM
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Correct me if im wrong but if villain has QQ+/AK here every time he 4b's then AK is a fold because we only win 40% of the time and we need to win 70% of the time with the money were risking so if we win around 40% of the time when the money goes in and villain fold 30% of the time because he has some 4b bluffs would shipping AK make our play break even then?
 
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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:31 PM
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Fold river, imo

Seriously tho, fold pre and why such a big 3 bet, i mean we are OOP but it is HU and 2,50 sends the same message as 3 and you can still stack off until river but it costs you less preflop if you have to fold.
 
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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:10 PM
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AK is defo a hand to go all in pre flop unlucky that you bump into ACES

it's ugly to 3bet then fold to a shove with Ako preflop that's super dead money might as well flip it
 
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Fri Aug 01, 2014, 01:57 AM
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If this is a Zoom game I'd probably consider folding vs the 4-bet at least some of the time

Some arguments for folding also include that in these positions people do not necessarily 4-bet all that wide against the blinds, and your bigger than usual 3-bet size could strengthen villain's continuing range by a big margin.


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Fri Aug 01, 2014, 07:52 AM
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Is 3 betting 4x OOP a little excessive?
 

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