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Can I fold this hand? 2.2 NLHE - Wed Aug 06, 2014, 03:44 PM
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My all in was fine or I can wait?

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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 03:47 PM
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I think 55+ & AJs+ is fine if its turbo if normal structure then 77+ & AQ+
 
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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 03:55 PM
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How were the others at the table playing? Loose or tight? How often did they call open-raises?

Please advise.

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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 03:58 PM
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Please find attach image.


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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 04:00 PM
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I had 0 read on villain.
I'm not talking just the one person... everyone behind you. This info will play into my decision.

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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 04:25 PM
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I have uploaded stats.
 
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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 05:56 PM
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Hi sandip504!

In most instances, I'm going to shove (any pair, and a number of other hands)... BUT NOT HERE. I'm folding and here's why:

The key table dynamic here is MY image. I'm viewed as between a LAG and a MANIAC and due to this, I'm much more likely to get called. If I shove a small pair in a spot like this, I'm doing it mostly for fold equity as I do not really want to get called. The way this table is playing, I will get called, by at least one opp, probably 2 (surprised the LAG in the BB didn't play too). The more in the pot, the worse 55 plays.

If one opp is in the pot, then I'm in a coinflip, but if 2 call, I'm going to win only at around 30% of the time... which makes this a -EV play.

If I had a tight table image (say 18/15 stats for example) then I'll get enough folds to make shoving here a very profitable play (would shove about 18% of hands 22+ A8s+ A5s ATo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s 98s), but because I'm playing 30% of hands... I won't have the fold equity needed to do this.

Seeing how I'm playing 30%, I need to have a hand that will be ahead of not only 1, but most likely 2 opps and this lowers what I can play down to TT+ AK+ and even TT or AK is a marginal play.

This is a great example of how table dynamics can influence a decision. What can be a correct play in one instance, can be a huge -EV play with different dynamics.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 10:28 PM
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Can u min raise this hand and fold to some of the players if they jam?


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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 10:31 PM
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Can u min raise this hand and fold to some of the players if they jam?
Not really, because the stacks aren't deep enough to setmine. If I want to play it to setmine, I need 15X the bet in everyone's stack and I'm not that deep.

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Wed Aug 06, 2014, 10:35 PM
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oh ok cool


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Thu Aug 07, 2014, 12:25 AM
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Thanks for useful information!
 
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Thu Aug 07, 2014, 04:46 AM
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Whereabouts were you in the tournament at this stage? Looks like you are pretty deep already
 
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Thu Aug 07, 2014, 06:06 AM
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Whereabouts were you in the tournament at this stage? Looks like you are pretty deep already
Not sure but approximately 60/112.
 

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