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$5.5 MTT, Mid pair in late tournament stage - Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:19 AM
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I'm not playing poker a lot this year, but yesterday I decided to play some MTTs. One of them (a $5.5 MTT with just over 2100 entrants) I went deep and accumulated a good stack (9th biggest stack) with just 64 people left. Now, as I'm not really a tournament player I didn't know how to play the following situation. Hope someone could explain me how I should have played this?

I was dealt 99 and had 20BB left so a normal raise could do, but there was a lot of reshoving going on at the table (especially by the big stack) with really medeocre holdings (K6o, etc.) so I thought that the change of this was quite big and didn't want to call with pocket nines. So now I'm wondering how I should have played this hand? Do we just bet/fold with this stack?

 
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Sun Aug 10, 2014, 11:50 AM
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Hi PokerIggy!

With 99 and 20BB, I'm going to make a standard raise (my standard is to 2.2BB, but a min is ok too). My plan for the rest of the hand is that if a loose player 3-bets, then I'm more than happy getting the chips in, BUT, if a tight player 3-bets me, then while I can still get it in, I do leave myself the option to fold.

The reason that I don't want to open-shove this many chips is that in most cases, it will end up value-owning myself as I'll fold out all of the worse hands and only get called by something better.

I'd rather give the opp the chance to 3-bet with worse, so I'd be ahead of their range (if they 3-bet and I shove they'd basically be obligated to call me with their whole range), rather than initially shove and be way behind their calling range.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:30 PM
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Thanks John for your reply. That was exactly what I was thinking after playing this hand about value owning myself (I only hate to learn the lesson the hard way ). However I've still one thing that bothers me. If I (min)raise from mid position and people start shoving with 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo we have 54 > 45 odds. But do we make the call with a medium pair when we still have 18 BB left if we fold? So the real question is if the odds tell us to make the call. Do we actually make it or wait for a more profitable situation?
 
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Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:25 PM
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If it's a loose opp, so I'm sure that I'm ahead against their entire range, then I'm calling... if the opp is tighter, then I can be behind their range, so I'd fold. It's opp dependent as how wide they're playing will determine whether I'm ahead or behind. If I'm ahead, I'm calling... if I'm behind, I'm folding.

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Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:59 PM
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Like John say min raise or 2. and then if you see the guy is loose or do some crazy stuff before(like you said K6) then just shove if he 3bet you. OKAY result would be the same but in any case like this he always folds all hands that are behind our range.
 
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Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:29 AM
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Don't ever raise/fold 99 from HJ for 20 BB unless you're facing the biggest nits ever or there's multiple shoves behind you
 

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