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Early AA in Open Skill League - Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:23 AM
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I got AhAd UTG and made normal 3BB raise, UTG2 called my raise and MP1 went ALL-in. I called and UTG2 called with Jh9h, MP1 had AcKc. I lost the hand to flop Js Jc Qh Th 7d.

I am a begginer player and I know you should play realy tight in Open Skill league early, but did i made the right call or should i have avoid early pre flop ALL-in's even with AA.
 
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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:43 AM
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I think you did the right thing. With AA you want to get the chips in the middle before the flop. You were a 68 % favourite so normally 7 out of 10 times you win. This time you were unlucky.

And yes at the OSL people go easily all in with almost anything in the first half hour or so .Therefore only play top hands in the beginning and if you can play only in position.
 
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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:10 AM
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AA is the best starting hand.
If somebody shoves on you preflop, you should always call.


Don't feel bad about this, it's a bad beat and it happends.
 
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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:51 AM
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With AA early in a league game preflop, I want to make a standard raise and if someone shoves on me, I'm snap-calling.

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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:12 PM
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To answer that question you must know what your goal is. If it is to simply win a hand then go right ahead and go all-in with a decent chance at winning it. In a cash game you most certainly would do that because a single hand is akin to its own tournament, but in a points league format do you really want to simply win hands or do you want to find a balanced approach to live as long as possible?

There are at least 5 or 6 different goals I have identified that one can be pursuing which are not at all foolish if that's what you settle on. Not everyone plays for monthly standings. Only you can answer what your goal is. I have settled for playing the stats leader boards and I can tell you that I routinely lay down AA unless there is a compelling points argument to be playing them. I'm not looking for cards as much as I'm looking for opportunities to be in hands that are profitable to my score.

Ask yourself this: is it better to be given AA and go all-in with no other knowledge of what is coming by way of # of challenges and community cards or to have limped in with a marginal starting hand and hit a straight, a nut flush or a set with only one or two other cards coming? I would rather take the latter. You have time at the start of a league game to see some hands. If you are in a late position and can get in against one opponent you may still want to take that chance, but it will fail some times (as it must) and you will deal with the points consequences. You cannot mope when it fails, though. You must say to yourself you knew it was possible and that you embraced the risk.
 
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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cleobuddy View Post
To answer that question you must know what your goal is. If it is to simply win a hand then go right ahead and go all-in with a decent chance at winning it. In a cash game you most certainly would do that because a single hand is akin to its own tournament, but in a points league format do you really want to simply win hands or do you want to find a balanced approach to live as long as possible?

There are at least 5 or 6 different goals I have identified that one can be pursuing which are not at all foolish if that's what you settle on. Not everyone plays for monthly standings. Only you can answer what your goal is. I have settled for playing the stats leader boards and I can tell you that I routinely lay down AA unless there is a compelling points argument to be playing them. I'm not looking for cards as much as I'm looking for opportunities to be in hands that are profitable to my score.

Ask yourself this: is it better to be given AA and go all-in with no other knowledge of what is coming by way of # of challenges and community cards or to have limped in with a marginal starting hand and hit a straight, a nut flush or a set with only one or two other cards coming? I would rather take the latter. You have time at the start of a league game to see some hands. If you are in a late position and can get in against one opponent you may still want to take that chance, but it will fail some times (as it must) and you will deal with the points consequences. You cannot mope when it fails, though. You must say to yourself you knew it was possible and that you embraced the risk.
Well said. It is only one hand and Depending where you stand on the leader board and the stage of the month would be my consideration of weather to call or fold.
 
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Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:27 PM
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Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:25 AM
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in poker we have to take the risk to get a bigger reward if i got AA no matter where am I at the leadearboard I'm taking my chance FIST PUMP SHOUTING HELL YEAH I CALL

but good explanation from cleo
 
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Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:26 AM
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Always...I repeat always play Aces aggressively.You have to realize you will get unlucky sometimes or your opponent will get lucky.

All in All overtime you will win more playing Aces aggressively before the flop.Good Luck at the tables.


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Sun Aug 17, 2014, 04:24 AM
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I'll often finish one of these games with a VPIP of 0, but it always goes in with AA. I'm confident that the points lost over the course of a month by doing this are outweighed by the additional points gained.
 

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