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2NL FR - I tripped over my trips - Sat Sep 06, 2014, 10:57 AM
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When should i have folded?
 
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Sat Sep 06, 2014, 12:27 PM
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One critical piece of information is missing here and that is how tight or loose the initial raiser is. This information will set up how I play the hand.

Calling a raise with QJ preflop can be trouble. If the raiser is a normal to tight player, I'm mucking it preflop as I'm too easily dominated.

On the flop, when I get re-raised, I'm shoving and not calling.

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Sat Sep 06, 2014, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JWK24 View Post
One critical piece of information is missing here and that is how tight or loose the initial raiser is. This information will set up how I play the hand.

Calling a raise with QJ preflop can be trouble. If the raiser is a normal to tight player, I'm mucking it preflop as I'm too easily dominated.

On the flop, when I get re-raised, I'm shoving and not calling.

John (JWK24)
This was a ZOOM session, and I don't use any tracking tools yet, so no tight/loose information available.
Anyway, the initial raiser preflop was not the one causing trouble.
 
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Sat Sep 06, 2014, 01:34 PM
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Without info on the opp.... then this needs to be a fold preflop, as my hand is too weak to call a raise with against a realistic opp that raises.

When playing hands, I don't want to be results oriented. The key is to make the best decision that I can, at a given point in time. Anything that happens after each decision point, is out of my hands.

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Sat Sep 06, 2014, 04:33 PM
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I have to agree with JWK. QJo is a fold to a raise.
And also, on the flop, my money would have gone in after the 3bet.
 
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Sat Sep 06, 2014, 07:11 PM
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Fold pre-flop.

As played, call the first flop bet, don't raise. When you raise and get re-raised, fold. You literally only beat JT. Villain has AJ or KJ almost always.

QJo is a clear fold pre-flop. It's a "trouble hand", as proved in this hand. It's trouble because even when you make a hand as strong as trips, you're still losing if the pot gets big. Stick with hands that WIN big pots, not lose them.


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