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NL10 Zoom TP on paired board - Sun Sep 07, 2014, 03:43 AM
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SB: $10.91 (109.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.48 (124.8 bb)
UTG: $12.52 (125.2 bb)
MP: $11.39 (113.9 bb)
CO: $20.60 (206 bb)
BTN: $15.83 (158.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) J J A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28

Turn: ($1.01) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

River: ($2.27) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.17, Hero?

Villain is unknown.

What does these pot bets OTR in general means? Could we see a busted FD here or it's almost always for value?

How about pre-flop? Maybe 3-betting to like 0.7$ is better option?
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014, 07:06 AM
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Yeah i'm just folding river vs that sizing. It's usually just a J or better at 10nl.

I 3b this hand in these positions most of the time (only flatting against supernits or guys who fold heaps to 3bets).

If I were to 3b it would be to 80c against a minraise OOP.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014, 01:22 PM
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Hi Sadaus,

I think both flatting and 3-betting are valid options preflop here. I think flatting vs. nits and guys who fold to 3b's a ton is preferable like birdayy said, but beyond that I like having some big ace combos in my flatting range preflop, and I think flatting AK may leave too much value on the table, so I generally mix in a few AQ combos to fill this roll. The idea being to seed my preflop flatting range with some hands strong enough to call a 3-barrel on top pair boards. So readless I might 3B the suited AQ combos and flat half the offsuit ones.

That being said, I agree that we can fold the river here to this sizing and run out. Our range to check/call 2 streets is basically Ax, Jx, and draws. As we are an unknown at 10NL, villain is not expecting us to fold an ace, and a busted draw will fold to any modest bet, so if he had a hand that needed to bluff the river he could do it for as little as $1 imo, I would expect to see $1.25 probably. Plus if he had a busted heart draw, it would undoubtedly block a number of the draws we could hold, making our range more Ax/Jx heavy.

So ultimately, this is a run out for villain to give up on his busted draws imo, and this sizing looks very value heavy... like birdayy said, we are probably getting shown a jack or better here way too often to make calling profitable.


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