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An important service announcement for UK players - Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:53 PM
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An important service announcement for UK players

Due to new regulations, all gaming services available to players in the United Kingdom must be licensed in the UK. As a result, all PokerStars players in the UK will be required to move their accounts to PokerStars UK and download an updated desktop client and/or mobile app to continue using the service.

Your log-in details, account balance and history will NOT be affected by the change, and you will still be able to enjoy our complete range of games with players from around the world.

The new PokerStars UK client will be available from 00:01 BST on October 1. To move your account, simply launch the software as usual from your PC or Mac, log-in and follow the on-screen prompts. The process is quick and straightforward, and will usually take under a minute to complete. Players using mobile devices will need to move their accounts as described above, then download the new app for free from the App Store (for iOS users) or from the PokerStars mobile site (for Android users).

Mobile download links will be available on this page from October 1.

£5,000 added in Freerolls, October 1-5

As a special thank you to our players, everyone who has moved to PokerStars UK by October 5 will be able to play in our series of daily PokerStars UK Freerolls. Running every night from October 1-5 at 20:00 BST, each tournament has a £1,000 added prize pool. The sooner you move your account to PokerStars UK and download the new desktop client and/or mobile app, the more freerolls you can play! Find the tournaments under the ‘Tourney’ > ‘Regional’ tabs in the PokerStars lobby from October 1.

Click here for further information.

Contact support@pokerstars.com if you have any questions about updating your software.


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Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:57 PM
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Saw this on 2+2.

Can't believe they are removing the auto-rebuy option. Going to mean so much more clicking.
 
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Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:35 PM
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I don't use auto-rebuy so not something I'd miss. But reducing the VIP rewards in 2015 for UK players is a bit off.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:33 AM
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So what are the hidden changes then? Reducing bonus points isn't that great......where's the article 2+2 please?
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:50 AM
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On the click here for further information. Not on 2+2 thread probably lots of posts.

http://www.pokerstars.com/uk-migration/faq/
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:56 AM
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yes I had seen that FF thank you, but it looks like the reduced bonus points details will be probably be announced after we have changed over!
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 02:03 AM
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Overlapped your post WB - I don't follow 2+2 threads.

PokerStars will have to pay taxes on profits at point of service (country) rather than from a business tax haven. I guess that's what it's all about.

PS. Scotland voted NO - long night.

Last edited by ForrestFive; Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 02:11 AM.. Reason: over lap / tax etc
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 02:09 AM
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ayers-1475590/
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 02:12 AM
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ty Brendan
 
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u.k tax = less vip rewards? - Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:49 PM
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Im hearing that uk players will get less reward points as of next month due to a change in our tax laws. Is this correct and do we have any idea how much less rewards we will get?











***moved***

Last edited by royalraise85; Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 04:51 PM.. Reason: Moved to thread on topic.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:02 PM
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From the link in OP:

Q.Will my VIP Club rewards be affected?
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VIP Club rewards for PokerStars UK will be the same as on PokerStars.com for the remainder of 2014. Rewards will be reduced slightly for 2015; more information will be available at a later date.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:16 PM
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Can someone explain in simple terms the 15% to me mentioned in this...http://www.poker777.com/20140912/the...ber-1st-uk.php

Who is goign to pay the 15% ?
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:40 PM
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rolo, It's a 15% levy on net rake imposed on the operator PokerStars

It was a long read. Thanks for the link.
bhoylegend http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ayers-1475590/
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:00 PM
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ty forest i ben readin a lot

found pokerstars.fr wil no longer be available or winamax

if i had to pay the 15% i be sunk lol had to check

eyes starting to burn now hahhaa...butI think also some other UK govt tax law will come in force in Decemeber

other interesting things i found are

http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/wina...ons_this_month

http://www.onlinepoker.net/poker-new...g-market/24559

Point of consumption tax

The controversial ‘Point of Consumption’ (POC) tax has been debated and discussed by the online gaming industry for years but was passed into law under the title of the ‘Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Act 2014’.

The politicians claim that it has been introduced to help protect online bingo, online casino and online poker players from unscrupulous offshore operators.

The new law means all online gaming companies must be licensed in the UK, and thus under UK law. However critics of the POC say that it is simply yet another stealth tax, designed to fill HMRC’s coffers.

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...market-590022/

so much reading i didnt have time for a game!!
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 03:39 AM
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As a prolific sports bettor this has had more implications than just the poker aspect of it.

Lost some very good books due to these regulations, ones that were perfectly sound but didn't want to pay the tax, which is a shame. They say it is to protect the players but there have been more pension funds going broke than there have been sportsbooks. And while they claim to have taken action, they have in reality done very little. The Eton elite are just continuing their social engineering. Can't believe that a section of society had the chance to get rid of them and chose to stick.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 04:54 PM
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What happens if you don't swap accounts from .com to .uk ?

 
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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 05:09 PM
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You can play on Zynga!
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Curran View Post
What happens if you don't swap accounts from .com to .uk ?


Accounts on .com will be blocked I guess.


But what if I play in the uk and in other countries, will I need 2 accounts so I can get higher vip's when playing overseas?
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 08:26 PM
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Bill my understanding is you have to change over you are forced too

but only 2 things are changing

auto top is disapearing to stop degenrates

and in 2015 our VIP/FPP rewards wont be as good as other countries

But its not all bad news Ive read that being regulated properly your money will be even safer

when i first seen this i thought oh no bad news just as US players arrive back(dunno when that is yet by the way but surely it soon but i been thinkin that for ages now)..that UK wouldnt be allowed but we can still paly against anyone in the world

If you have any queries email support..I know I have

Depending on the % reduction in 2015 some Uk players may choos eot play on different sites I feel

Doubt they pas son th efull 15% tax onto the players with regards to the VIP rewards scheme peopel on 2+2 are guessing perhaps say 7.5 or 5...but I reckon people will try to gues son a upside for them so it could be 10% (just guessing)

Afterall Pokerstars is a business and wants to make aprofit

If they dont get this fine balance correct though they coudl lose potential customers both now and in the future

Other sites may be making changes soon too .be extra vigilant bwetween now and 1st October my Manc m8
 
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Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:57 AM
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Death and taxes. I hope it doesn't go the same way as tobacco *cough*. The gambling industry should fight to lower taxes so they don't go up all the time.
 

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