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Donk bettors - Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:26 AM
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Since: Mar 2011
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I am playing on FTP $5.50 MTT 10mins blind level 300 starting stack, small field around 200 players.

What should I do here raise or just call?

If raise then how much to raise?

Full Tilt Poker Game #34706054305: $750 Guarantee (275959094), Table 5 - NL Hold'em - 15/30 - 12:45:41 IST - 2014/09/19 [03:15:41 ET - 2014/09/19]
Seat 2: merylpc (1,745)
Seat 3: LmLn123 (3,140)
Seat 4: loodilnya (2,700)
Seat 5: adikumar2010 (5,080)
Seat 6: MUMIN (6,225)
Seat 7: RakebackBot (2,545)
Seat 8: KOTLYAREVSKAYA (2,940)
Seat 9: fil_ajwi1 (2,560)
fil_ajwi1 posts the small blind of 15
merylpc posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to adikumar2010 [ ]
merylpc: lol
LmLn123 folds
loodilnya folds
adikumar2010 raises to 75
MUMIN calls 75
RakebackBot folds
KOTLYAREVSKAYA folds
fil_ajwi1 has 15 seconds left to act
fil_ajwi1 folds
merylpc calls 45
*** FLOP *** [ ] (Total Pot: 240, 3 Players)
merylpc bets 240
adikumar2010
MUMIN Action Pending

STATS :
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:19 AM
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Hi adikumar2010!

With 66, I'm going to make a standard opening raise preflop.

I flop bottom set, on a monotone board in a 3-way flop and get a pot-donk bet into me. Here, I have options and my decision needs to be made based on how the opp behind me plays postflop (not provided and is critical. Preflop info doesn't tell how a player plays postflop).

If the opp is likely to fold, then I'll just flat here and should end up in a HU pot to the turn.

If the opp is sticky, then I prefer to raise here. A standard raise is to 2.5-3x the previous bet and with multiple opps, I tend to go to the top end of this range to try and get the others to fold, so I'd raise to 720... however, this pot-commits the first opp and creates a problem. If I raise to this amount, the player behind me calls and it gets to the first player that shoves... it will NOT be a legal raise, so I can't re-shove to isolate. If I raise less (so that a shove by the donk bettor would be a legal raise) and both call, then the opps will end up getting the correct odds to call a turn bet anyway due to the pot size and their remaining chip stacks. Due to this, I'm just putting them in now and shoving.

Worst case, if someone has spades, I have 7 outs on the turn and 10 outs on the river to improve and can easily be ahead. This is a good example of why bankroll management is important, as I want to be taking my chances with made hands to get a stack.

The key here though, is a read on how the opp behind plays postflop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

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