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JJ UTG vs MP - Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:02 PM
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Do you think its good to x/f JJ here no spade on this board?

Im assuming MP is good as the players are playing 500nl

2s 3s 5c 8s

So hero bet flop and x/f turn. I normally bet here but i can see a problem with that as we can get bluffed a ton on the river but at the same time i don't like to x/f JJ here.

I think its close but i definitely cant see myself x/f in other positions.
 
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Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:11 PM
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Single-raised pot?

Jacks aren't beating much on the turn. If villain is a tight caller pre-flop, the turn check-fold is fine. I'm not sure if c-betting the flop is best, tbh. I think the optimal line starts with a check (it's hard to rep much with a bet OOP on that board), but I'm not sure if it's a check-call or a check-raise.

EDIT: Just checked with Snowbot. "Optimal" line is check-call, check-call. If hero c-bets, then turn is a check-call vs half pot bet, with 99 being bottom of range. Jacks should bluff-catch, but will have to fold to most river bets.


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Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:38 PM
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Hey Arty

Yeah it was a single raised pot i was pretty shocked when he x/f turn seen as he has a pretty wide range for betting that turn from what ive seen.

So what is snowie betting for value, big pairs with a spade+?
 
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Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:48 PM
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** thread moved to Basic Poker Hand Discussions **


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Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike2198 View Post
So what is snowie betting for value, big pairs with a spade+?
Basically that, but it checks the flop at a very high frequency, because hands like KTs, J9s, A8s completely missed, and villain's range is a lot stronger on that board (mostly overpairs), so there's not much fold equity.


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Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:09 PM
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Cool i need to check out snowie again soon, thanks for helping us out again.
 

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