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$11 Super Stack tournament , QQ facing 230BB maniac 3-bet Shove - Thu Oct 02, 2014, 02:38 AM
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It is $11 Super Stack tournament on FTP with 12min slow blind level and 5000 starting stack.

This is 3rd hand of the tournament, one fish 3-bet shove 4550 chips.

I Raise UTG, UTG+1 calls and fish ship from SB, what to do here?

 
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Thu Oct 02, 2014, 07:20 AM
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In my experience this is often AK who doesn't want to play the hand post flop. I would fold and wait for a better spot, as we would just be flipping often at the very early stages of the tournament, plus the UTG player may have a strong hand (KK,AA) that would call off also. But I'm no expert
 
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Thu Oct 02, 2014, 10:08 AM
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Hi adi,

Fold, next hand.

Careful about labeling, when you use the term "maniac" in the title people might think this was a read, but it's only the 3rd hand of the tournament.


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Thu Oct 02, 2014, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sjb958 View Post
In my experience this is often AK who doesn't want to play the hand post flop. I would fold and wait for a better spot, as we would just be flipping often at the very early stages of the tournament, plus the UTG player may have a strong hand (KK,AA) that would call off also. But I'm no expert
Why can't I call if he has AK?
 
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Thu Oct 02, 2014, 05:34 PM
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Good question Adi! To be honest, Im used to playing single table SNG's and some books say to not get all in at the early stages of a SNG with QQ or AK as you are often in a coin flip situation, where you will be going out 45-55% of the time and only winning 3x the buy-in maximum if you do go on to win it, (you are still not guaranteed to win anything if you win the flip!)

However in a multi-table tournament I guess this is different , where if you double up early on you get an opportunity to gain a bigger payout at the top end of the tournament. So maybe in a multi-table tournament you would be more happy to take the flip, and just load up another if you lose the flip? Also remember the guy in early pos could have something too in the situation you posted.

Did you call by the way?
 
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Fri Oct 03, 2014, 04:03 AM
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I was the UTG, UTG+1 called and SB shoved. So you didn't understand the action properly, UTG+1 just called my preflop raise.

Yes I called and he had AKo

Last edited by adikumar2010; Sat Oct 04, 2014 at 02:31 AM..
 
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Fri Oct 03, 2014, 08:18 AM
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Ok my mistake, sorry. Was right about the Ace King though haha.
 

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