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Bad Beat, or bad play? - Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:16 PM
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In this hand I feel I got coolered. Curious what everyone else thinks?

 
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Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:25 PM
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played well IMO. the thing to remember here though is we're going to lose 1 in every 8 times.

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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:50 AM
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No idea why Villain 9 is min 3-betting and then 5-bet shoving.

I actually like the large 4-bet sizing as it was that which induced the huge 5-bet shove.

It's a cooler. Any reason you are buying in for 56 big blinds only?
 
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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:11 AM
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I bought in for the max, but forgot to top up on previous hand before the cards were dealt. Lol.
 
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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:34 AM
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Use auto-top imo. Apart from villain's min-3-bet, this all looks standard. Both players should be getting it in pre with those hands and stacksizes.


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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:47 PM
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I think our 4b sizing is quite large... a normal sizing OOP I like to use is 2.4x his bet which would be about .31c here. And that's for 100bb stacks, we are actually starting the hand with 56bb. The issue with the huge sizing is we are making it harder for our opponent to make further calling and raising mistakes. It's clear after reraising this big and leaving only .67c behind we aren't folding, we have a big hand. So he can make good decisions now. If we make it .31c to go then a call would cost him .18c more. His implied odds are .47c in the pot now + .82c behind for a total of 1.29 possible to win, or 7-1 roughly is his maximum implied. All his pocket pairs are not getting the right price to make this call, and suited connectors etc even worse. So a smaller sizing is not a mistake.

Aside from that, everything else looks standard. Like Arty said both players should be getting it in pre with those hands and 56bb effective.


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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RichyRob View Post
I actually like the large 4-bet sizing as it was that which induced the huge 5-bet shove.
It wasn't our sizing, it was his hand (AKs). If we make a smaller sizing the money still would go in against this hand, as well as other premiums like KK/QQ. It's the weaker part of his 3-betting range where the sizing matters most.


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